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OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:49 am
by Larry B
OK it's official. I just placed the order for the OD18 Plans. Now I can keep my questions here and not mess up CL's topic. I'm sure I'll have lot's of questions even thought CL and Capeman have documented there build in great detail. Maybe, Just Maybe I can add something to it. The bar is set so high right now it's going to take alot of hard work to even come close. This build will take a month or so to really get underway. I just finished my FL14 (I know I'll post photo's) because my shop was a mess building the FL14 and I'm going to build cabinets to TRY and organize my shop first :oops: And of course do some fishing in my FL14.
In the mean time I'll study the plans and ask questions.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:45 am
by Larry B
Plywood will be here Tuesday the 20th, 20 sheets of BS1088 Hydrotek. Been going over the plans and I WILL have questions. I'll do my best to search for answer's already, but I might repeat some also.
Have to wait a couple of weeks to get the epoxy kit from Bateau. Give me time to get pieces cut. I like to take my time in cutting so thats no problem.

I do have one question for CL right away? I'm planning on cutting my stringers at 6" like you did to raise the sole 1/2", By raising the sole how much bigger did you cut the sole? I was thinking to cut 1/2" larger and then if need be trim it to fit?

Nothing like getting 20 sheets of Marine Plywood 2 days after your 20th Birthday X 3 + 1 :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:58 am
by Dougster
It'll be fun to follow your build. It is a cool day, getting the ply. Hard to believe what that pile can turn into. Give us some pics of your shop with cabinets when you're done. I sure need some ideas there, my shop is chaotic. And of course, give us a lot of pics of the build along the way, that adds a lot to the fun of following along. It's showtime.

Got his popcorn Dougster

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:39 am
by Cracker Larry
I do have one question for CL right away? I'm planning on cutting my stringers at 6" like you did to raise the sole 1/2", By raising the sole how much bigger did you cut the sole? I was thinking to cut 1/2" larger and then if need be trim it to fit?
That's what I did, 1/2" each side of center. Still had some small gappage to fill and nothing to trim. For best accuracy I think I'd go + 1" to each side of center. Or wait until the hull is built and take measurements directly from it. No rush to cut those sole panels right now, you won't be needing them for a long while yet.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:53 am
by Larry B
Dougster wrote:It'll be fun to follow your build. It is a cool day, getting the ply. Hard to believe what that pile can turn into. Give us some pics of your shop with cabinets when you're done. I sure need some ideas there, my shop is chaotic. And of course, give us a lot of pics of the build along the way, that adds a lot to the fun of following along. It's showtime.

Got his popcorn Dougster
Dougster, I hope you have lots of popcorn, this is going to take along time. I had some things come up and haven't even started on my cabinets yet, but still have to do them first before cutting. (my wife says so)
Cracker Larry wrote:
For best accuracy I think I'd go + 1" to each side of center. Or wait until the hull is built and take measurements directly from it. No rush to cut those sole panels right now, you won't be needing them for a long while yet.
Was thinking about that, and now that you mention it, I think that is exactly what I'll do, WAIT.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:05 pm
by Larry B
Well I believe I'm ready to start building. Had to get my wife a puppy. (My Dog) CL did such a great job with Sam watching over him, I thought what the heck I need a supervisor :D Got my drink of choice and I'm READY. It will be a few weeks before I can order the epoxy kit from Joel, but It's Official I'm on my second build. Look out for lots of questions :?:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:12 pm
by Cracker Larry
Cool dog, what is she? Australian Shepherd? You're gonna need more beer :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:22 pm
by Larry B
Yes Australian Shepherd. 12 weeks old. Got lots more beer, Refridgerator was too heavy to put on the stack of Plywood :lol: Now if he will just stop Pooping on my shop floor :help: An acre of dirt in the back yard, some lawn, and he poops in my shop :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:53 pm
by Bowmovement
An acre of dirt in the back yard, some lawn, and he poops in my shop
Dont ya just love puppies.

I kennel trained both of our dogs they have never gone in the house. Maybe from being sick, but hey what can ya do.

Good looking pup.

What part of Arizona you in?
Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:08 pm
by Larry B
Bowmovement, I'm in Surprise. the far NW of Phoenix. Moved here about 5 years ago from Temecula, Ca. Still have my daughters in Temecula.
Yea, Puppys are great. He's already house broke, but for some reason he really likes my shop floor :doh: He's a smart dog so it won't be long and he will poop out on the lawn :wink: Maybe he's trying to tell me my shop looks like Crap :idea:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:25 pm
by Bowmovement
I know where Surprise is. Have a good buddy that lives in Phoenix. Looking forward to watch your OD18 come together. Where will you be using the boat?

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:43 pm
by Larry B
Matt
Just going to use it in the local lakes and over at the River. Lake Mohave and Lake Havasu and the River inbetween. Maybe a trip now and then to Rocky Point or Baja Side.
Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:49 pm
by Larry B
Well it's not alot, but it's a start. Got 2 4x8 frames made and leveled. I'll use these to cut plywood and also a nice level pad for my build. The deck is 3/4" and frame build 16" on center.
Also got my plywood stacked flat and a 3/4" Partical board on top to hold everything flat.
After looking at this, thought I'd modify and build a temporary table for my saw. This way I can just slide the 3/4 over to the tempory table and rip it to width for the stringers. Also for the Rub Rails. Only takes a couple of minutes to add it or remove it.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:12 pm
by Bowmovement
Nice shop. Lots of room.

I see some quad tires in the background. What do you ride?

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:13 am
by Larry B
OK, let the questions begin. Please bear with me, other than operating and riding on a few boats, boating is new to me as are most boating terms. The FL14 was the first boat I ever owned, and Built :D

First questions come from reading the plans. There are a few parts that i don't understand. "Transom Brace" it shows 4, I can't see or understand where these go :doh:

Next is the two pieces right under Mold B, (you will need the plans to see these) I can send picture if necessory. They are 2' - 6 3/4" with a 2 1/4" curve. I was thinking casting deck? but with those measurements the deck would be 8' from the front.

These questions may have been ask before, but I couldn't find the answer. I always do searches to try to locate the answer before asking the question.

Also is there any problem with making Mold E out of 3/4" partical board as a temp mold? Reason is I need 6" of that piece of 3/4 for part of the stringer. When making the stringers a full 6" and losing 1/8" per saw cut I can only get 7 pieces out of the full sheet.

Thanks in advance,
Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:03 am
by Cracker Larry
There are only 2 transom braces, they will form the motorwell sides. The nesting is just showing you possible locations to cut them from the panels.

The 2 pieces shown under mold B will form the casting deck. I wouldn't cut these out yet. You may want to modify them later, mine is much larger than that. Even if you want to build it to plan, you will get a better fit if you wait to take measurements from the hull after it is assembled.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:11 am
by Larry B
CL, thanks for the info, but I guess I'm alittle slow. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer :doh:

I understand the motorwell sides, but I thought they were the Quarter Seat Side's with the notch cut out for the clamping board??
This is where I'm having a problem understanding it??

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:34 pm
by Cracker Larry
Give me a drawing number, Larry

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:45 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Give me a drawing number, Larry
D212/3

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:00 pm
by Cracker Larry
I understand the motorwell sides, but I thought they were the Quarter Seat Side's with the notch cut out for the clamping board??
Same part, just different terminology. It is both the motorwell side and the quarter seat side.

OK. Top left corner D212/3 shows the quarter seat sides, with notch for clamping board. There will be 2 of these, but they do not get installed yet.

Just below that are the transom braces. There are 2 of these. These are just temporary and will be temp installed to the stringers, to align and attach the transom. Later in the build you will remove these and replace them permanently with the motorwell (quarter seat) sides.

Below that is the seat tops.

Don't worry about 4 transom braces shown on the nesting, same page, that's just to give you an idea of best places to cut them from.

Does that make sense?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:06 pm
by Larry B
CL, thanks for that information. I all makes sense now.
So it would be ok to make the transom braces out of any wood, doesnt' really need to be Marine ply? Also did you see my other question about making mold E out of 3/4 partical board?
Thanks for your help on this,
Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:45 pm
by Cracker Larry
No, the transom braces really don't need to be marine ply, they aren't permanent.

Mold E on the other hand will be cut down and become Frame E, the motorwell bulkhead. It needs to be 3/4 marine ply, at least in the end. It can initially be anything. Craig and I both didn't make that cutout in Frame E, we cut it straight across and made a splashwell. Now is the time to really think about what modifications you might want to make.

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The actual seat/or motorwell sides don't get glassed in until after the sole goes on, as well as the upper part of the frame. You can see how I cut frame E straight across..

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Now framed in for seat tops and splash well top (not on the plans)

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Then the top goes on..

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:59 pm
by Larry B
CL, thanks. That answers my questions very well. I do want to make my motor well like you and craig did. I think it looks very good and functional. I hope you guys don't mind, but I'd like to copy most of the things you did. You guys are way more experienced than I am about boats. I really liked the way you have the sump and bait wells in the back. and I'll probably copy the lockers up front pretty close also. I've learned in my old age to listen to people who know what they are talking about. I' ve gone over your pictures and craigs alot, just thought I might be missing something as I didn't really understand it all.

I'm going to rip a 6" piece off the 3/4 for my other piece of stringer. Then I'll cut the final motor well after the flip and sole install. Pretty sure I'm on the right track now.
Ordered my epoxy kit and hoping it is here this week.

Hope I'm not being a pita or become one :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:05 pm
by Cracker Larry
No problem 8) When in doubt, ask before you cut :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:42 pm
by Larry B
Bowmovement wrote:Nice shop. Lots of room.

I see some quad tires in the background. What do you ride?

Matt
I've got a Yamaha Rhino

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:03 pm
by Bowmovement
Larry B wrote:
Bowmovement wrote:Nice shop. Lots of room.

I see some quad tires in the background. What do you ride?

Matt
I've got a Yamaha Rhino
Very nice. We do alot of desert stuff. I dont have anymore toys :x sold everything when I got hurt. I have a good buddy who just got one of the new Polaris Artic Cats. He let me drive a couple of weekends ago and I wasnt a big fan. Almost rolled the thing. :help: Went to turn around and cut the wheel hard then hammer down and next thing I know I am up on 2 wheels. 8O All I could think was I better save this cause I cant afford to fix it. I cut the wheels hard the other way and hammered down again and we rode away like I knew what I was doing :D

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:10 pm
by Larry B
Starting to cut my stringers. Took the time to get one right and now I just copy it. Not anything real exciting about the pictures but thought I'd post them anyway. Won't get my epoxy till Nov. 3, that will give me time to get alot of stuff cut out.
I'm not very fast, But I sure am slow :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:52 pm
by Cracker Larry
Took the time to get one right and now I just copy it. Not anything real exciting
Not at all, a very important point to make a pattern and perfectly duplicate parts. The router with the guide collar and straight cutting bit is an excellent method 8) You will do well with this build, I can tell :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:05 pm
by Larry B
The hardest part was figuring out the added 1/2" on the stringer. It makes the overall length longer. 11/16" to be exact. But thats the only part I'm making bigger so the rest should be simple. Usually I'd use a router bit with the bearing on the bottom, but I didn't have a sharp one and found this one. Had to do about 3 passes because of the bit size but it worked out ok. Yes you guys build reports are great and I'm useing alot of info in them. Just thought I'd post as I go so maybe someone can pick up a new idea or better yet put a couple of idea's together and come up with a wonderful idea. I've learned everything I know about boat building here on the forum, and what a great bunce of people here. If I can just contribute alittle bit or one idea, it will be worth my time spent here.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:19 pm
by Bowmovement
Looking good. We like pictures around here.

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:31 pm
by Dougster
Larry B wrote: I'm not very fast, But I sure am slow :D
I may have you beat on that slow thing. I mean, heck, you know how to use a router! Mine just scares me to death is all :lol: Seriously, that was a helpful post for me. Way better than my way (cut one, use it to trace the next, cut that one proud of the line, plane it down, repeat...). Jeez, I never considered a router :oops:

Got that slow thing down Dougster

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:00 pm
by Larry B
I'm glad it helps you Dougster. Just be VERY CAREFUL, and make sure you have a sharp router bit. Just so you know, the router turns clockwise, so if you go left to right it will pull the router into the guide piece, if you go right to left it will want to wander away from the guide piece. The good thing about the bearing on top of the cutter, you can take just alittle bit off at a time. If the bearing is on the bottom you have to cut all the way the first time as your guide piece is on the bottom. But either way make sure you have a very good grip on the router and don't try to do the cut too fast. I've had them get away from me and it's not pretty, and the wood it chews up on the way isn't pretty either :help: But if all it chews up is wood, Well thats a good thing.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:21 pm
by Murry
The router is one of my favorite tools for sure. Nice looking work Larry and great choice on the OD, they are great looking boats as you already know.

Daniel

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:05 pm
by Larry B
Quick question? Is 19 inch's sufficient overlap on the stringer lamination? I'm thinking it is and hoping it is as thats all I can get :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 pm
by Cracker Larry
That's plenty 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:45 pm
by Larry B
CL, thanks for the quick answer.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:50 pm
by Larry B
Well not much happening. Got one stringer glued up. Thats all the epoxy I had left over from my FL14 build. Getting the big package tomorrow and I'll glue the other stringer up. Got most of my molds cut out. After the stringers are done I'll get the side panels cut and then the floor and get it glued up. Hope to get some progress this next week. The heat came back to AZ and had to turn on the A/C in the shop, but usually just in the afternoon. It's nice and cool in the mornings but of course thats the time the dog wants to take a walk out in the desert :roll: And I really need the exercise too and gets me in the mood to work on the boat when we get back home.
I hope to get some pictures up this week.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:36 pm
by Larry B
I need some input from some more experienced builders. I'm trying to plan ahead (never done that before) and anyway here is a picture of the spray rail I'm thinking about? I will mount it on the lower panel at the style line, then my upper panel will sit into the 1/4" groove. Do you think this will work? I'm pretty confident in it, but I might be missing something?? I could also install it tempory while installing the upper panel.
Any input will be appreciated.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:59 pm
by TomW
I think that would work fine Larry. My only thought is if that is low enough, but with the OD I think it will be fine.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:03 pm
by Larry B
Got a question here. I've noticed others drilling the stringer for a 2" conduit. That is aprox. a 2 3/8" hole in the stringer. The stringer is Only 5 1/2"- 6". I'm not ready to drill but just getting my thoughts in order, so if someone can educate me on this it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:15 pm
by Larry B
Well I guess I need to ask the question different as I'm not getting any input.
I've seen people drilling the stringer, but I thought you needed at least 3" on each side to retain the strenght of the stringer? With my stringer if I drill a 2 1/2" hole in a 6" stringer, that leaves less than 2" on either side. Is this acceptable? Because of all who have done it, I'm assuming it is, but I would still like the answer as to if it is correct.
Thanks

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:33 pm
by Cracker Larry
Well I guess I need to ask the question different as I'm not getting any input.
Patience :wink: You're a long ways from there yet. Probably a year :lol: The question is only 3 hours old :doh:

Keep the hole in the center of the stringer. The stringer will get 3/4 cleats glued to each side on the top. Use 1X2s for the cleats, this will further reinforce them. You could add a short cleat on the bottom of the stringer also. You could thicken the stringer where the hole will be. It ain't ideal, but it is almost unavoidable and it will be strong enough. Don't drill holes in both stringers at the same fore/aft location. Don't cut the top of the stringers in a notch. Don't cut any more holes in the stringer than you absolutely have to. You might can get by with none, depending on the console width. I only have 1 hole through a stringer, and reinforced it as above.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:08 pm
by Larry B
CL, thanks, and sorry for my impatience :wink: Just waiting for epoxy to set up and nothing to do but wonder (Ponder) about upcoming events. I'm going to try to keep it in the console without drilling the stringer. But if I have to, now I know what to do.
Thanks again.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:15 pm
by Cracker Larry
8) Pondering in advance is a good thing, but us Crackers don't get in a rush :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:46 am
by Larry B
Finished glueing up the panels today. Going to cut the bottom tomorrow and glue it with the butt blocks. Shooting for stringers glued in bottom on Tuesday. Moving right along. Working with Slow hardner so usually have to wait a day to do more work, unless I'm working wet on wet. Hope to have it looking like a boat in another week :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:15 pm
by Larry B
Well got some more done today. But as you can see my helper isn't much of a helper :lol:
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Got the bottom cut and in the process of glueing the butt blocks on.
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Panels stacked and ready except for some sanding.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:19 pm
by Cracker Larry
Good progress. She'll look like a boat real soon 8)
Got the bottom cut and in the process of glueing the butt blocks on.
Remember to leave gaps for the stringers :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:20 pm
by Dog Fish
Just having your helper hang with ya is good enough :wink: Good start :!: She will look like a boat soon.

Give the dog a bone anyway :D

Brian

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:29 pm
by Larry B
Got the stringers glued today. Now get some more pieces cut and wait till tomorrow or might glass in the stringers later today.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:32 pm
by Larry B
Dog Fish wrote:Just having your helper hang with ya is good enough :wink: Good start :!: She will look like a boat soon.

Give the dog a bone anyway :D

Brian
Thats true (sometimes) other times he is really in the way. When I'm gluing he is Locked out of the shop.
Usually if I'm sanding or using any power tool he is trying to help by pulling on the cord :help: Gets locked out for that too.
He always gets bones, :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:54 pm
by Larry B
Well got the stringers taped today. Man I thought of CL all the while doing it and can't imagine doing it with the side panels on :help: Back is killing me doing it this way. But then again CL is younger than I am :wink:
Going to get the molds in place either later today or tomorrow then start on the side panels.
This forum has been a blessing as far as information and help. I've read guite a bit on here and it sure makes the build go together nice haveing that info in your head, especially when your not the sharpest knife in the drawer :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:04 am
by Bowmovement
Nice job on the stringers.
This forum has been a blessing as far as information and help. I've read guite a bit on here and it sure makes the build go together nice haveing that info in your head,
Without this forum I dont think I would have the confidence to build a boat...

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:11 am
by Cracker Larry
can't imagine doing it with the side panels on Back is killing me doing it this way.
Don't worry, you'll still get plenty of practice bending over the sides, glassing in all the framing members, glueing cleats, fitting chase tubes....It is tough on the back :help:
But then again CL is younger than I am
I don't know about that, but it aint the age, it's the milage :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:47 pm
by Larry B
Just want to make sure I'm not screwing up. I don't seem to have the gap that CL and Craig had :doh: Panels look fair :doh: Anyway here are some pictures of what I've got. The biggest gap is between mold D and E and it's 1/4".
(I know my shop is a mess)

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:04 pm
by Cracker Larry
Perfect 8) Sam told me that I screwed something up :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:18 pm
by SpeckTaker
Hey Larry, the boat looks GREAT. I got a questain, on page D212/3 the bottom panel the last measurment is 1'-4 3/8 '' going toward the bow. It looks like u have another 4 foot to go without any measurment. I know it tells me somewhere. :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:35 pm
by Larry B
SpeckTaker wrote:Hey Larry, the boat looks GREAT. I got a questain, on page D212/3 the bottom panel the last measurment is 1'-4 3/8 '' going toward the bow. It looks like u have another 4 foot to go without any measurment. I know it tells me somewhere. :doh:
SpeckTaker, it's right there. From that measurement you go directly to the bow point. Use one long piece of batten, I used a 1/2"x1/2" sq. steel tubing and it seemed to work great. Just had it lying around and found a good use for it. If you go from the last measurement to the bow tip without the complete curve it will just be a straight line. It's almost a straight line anyway. Hope this helps, if you have anymore questions please ask.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:00 pm
by Bowmovement
Looks good Larry.

You should see my garage. We just moved and of course things got thrown in there that aint suppose to be in my :D garage. I have to get in there and clean it up and install some shelves for storage. I hate moving :x

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:10 pm
by peter-curacao
This is such a cool pic! IMHO it screems I'm gonne be fast! look at that line (gap)
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Carry on Larry! don't mind the mess ! at least you have the guts to post your pictures! I mostly cut the mess out,or do a clean up before taking pics

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:56 am
by Larry B
Well checked my transom and it is cut to plan. I'll just have to repair it like Cape Man did. Cracker Larry, if you cut to plan, I don't know how your's came out right :doh: Oh Well got to go back to work. Just another day in boat building :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:33 pm
by Larry B
Well other than the transom problem she stiched together like a glove. She is stiched now and still have to put some tabbing on the chine and lower panel, and have to remove the upper panel to get it ready. I didn't have the confidence of CL to tab each panel as I went. I wanted to make sure everything was right before putting on some glue. But I believe she's ready for some goop. But first with the panels off the floor I've got some room now and it's time to clean the shop before gluing. Where's my wife when I need her :help:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:05 pm
by Bowmovement
Lookin Good Larry :D

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:59 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Matt,
Here is what I got done today. Got the upper side panels glued and screwed, you got to glue before you can screw :lol:

Here is the side panels on the Prefit:
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Here the panels are wet and ready for glue, I know you have all seen pictures like these before, (But not mine :D )
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And the finished product for today,
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And just want to thank Jacques for a great looking boat, The plans are right on the money, Is this a good looking boat or what???
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:06 pm
by Lon
From what I think I see in the last photo:
The slight nose droop (sheerline curving down) and gap in the
upper panels at the bow might be lessened by upward pressure at the
bottom of the most forward point of the bow.
I know some like that look, though.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:00 am
by Cracker Larry
Yep, I was going to suggest the same thing as Lon. A dory doesn't need the droopy bow syndrome :wink: Keep the bow pulled up and back until you get it glassed.

Looks great, you are making good progress!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:00 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Yep, I was going to suggest the same thing as Lon. A dory doesn't need the droopy bow syndrome :wink: Keep the bow pulled up and back until you get it glassed.

Looks great, you are making good progress!
You know I was going to raise the bow some, and even had it planned when I laid out the panels. But I screwed up :doh: I raised it and then made a cut before extended it, Not paying attention. Larry, maybe that is why (I'm sure it is) that you could put the rub rails on without kerfing??? Going over your pictures it looks like you did raise your bow a bit??? I'm wondering if I could add to my bow at this time?? Glass on some 1/4 plywood and extend it up some?? I'm thinking with the 12oz biax and rub rail it should be plent strong, and I can also add some glass inside where it will be the anchor locker anyway :doh:
Anybody's thoughts on this :?:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:42 am
by Bowmovement
Larry, I think they maybe talking about the droopy bow. You can see it here...
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It should be fixable. I will let someone else chime in on fixing it. I have an idea but not sure how to put it on paper, if you know what I mean.


Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:59 am
by Larry B
OK, this is what I'm going to do. Need some input as if this is high enough?? I think it looks good right here, but would like input good or bad?? Panels are already glued so moving them is out :help:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:06 am
by Bowmovement
The height looks good to me. What really matters is does it look good to you :wink:

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:40 am
by Larry B
Bowmovement wrote:The height looks good to me. What really matters is does it look good to you :wink:

Matt
My orinigal idea was to raise it 6" at the bow, this is about 3 1/2" I'm thinking 6 might be a bit much, but I might put together a piece and see how it looks. It will just be a bit harder to get the shear line looking right.

I appreciate everyones comments, gotta love this forum :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:43 am
by cape man
The sheer on the bow looks good to me, but why do you have such a large gap between the upper panels at the nose of her? Can you still pull those together or are you going to fill the gap with wood and epoxy? Lots of force right there when running through a chop and the eye for the trailer strap goes there as well. Don't think you can just fill that with epoxy.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:09 am
by Larry B
cape man wrote:The sheer on the bow looks good to me, but why do you have such a large gap between the upper panels at the nose of her? Can you still pull those together or are you going to fill the gap with wood and epoxy? Lots of force right there when running through a chop and the eye for the trailer strap goes there as well. Don't think you can just fill that with epoxy.


Craig, it's the same gap that CL had, I'll just put some ply in there and after it gets glassed front and back I'm sure it will be strong. Probably over build it to make sure.

which shear do you like?? The before or after :?:

Here's CL's gap:
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Don't know how you got yours pulled up, But I don't think its a big deal either way?
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:14 pm
by cape man
Don't know how you got yours pulled up,
Must of been the part of the boat I cut properly?

I like the extended sheer myself. The high bow on the OD really sets it off. Will say it took some getting used to while driving. Kept wanting to trim her down...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:36 am
by Larry B
New shear line:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:56 am
by Bowmovement
Looks good. You are moving right along.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:06 pm
by Larry B
Well while waiting for more of the rub rail to cure, thought I'd take the FL14 out for a ride. Fished a little bit, but NOTHING so just enjoyed the Scenery and the ride.

Looking out over the Bow
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Just a bunch of Cactus
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Not a very good picture, but a Hawk in a tree, Usually can see some wild burro's, but not today.
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just another picture of the lake
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:18 pm
by Larry B
I guess I'll name this the One Man Flip :D Sure thought about Cracker Larry while doing this and wishing I had those two chainfalls of his. But gotta work with what ya got. So a couple of come-alongs or rachet cable pullers (what ever you want to call them) two ladders a floor jack and lots of guts :help:

This first picture you will notice I have unpluged the door opener, don't want some idiot opening the door while I'm in the middle of flipping this boat. Even though I'm the only one home (except for the dog) You just never know :doh: So anyway for a first time in my life I did a safty thing :D
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And she's going up pretty smooth, taking lots of pictures as I was taking my time doing this.
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She's standing up on edge, dang she's tall??
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Ok she's on the way down and looking good.
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Getting some help from my floor jack, she was too heavy to push over by myself.
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Ok almost there
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And she's down and in her resting place for awhile.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:58 pm
by Cracker Larry
Great job on the flip! Slow and easy. You're making real good progress, looks nice 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:15 pm
by longrod
You got 1 hell of a garage there.Wish it were mine.Is it climate controlled? Nice looking sled !

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:42 pm
by Larry B
longrod wrote:You got 1 hell of a garage there.Wish it were mine.Is it climate controlled? Nice looking sled !
Fully insulated, heated (only have to use the heater maybe once a year) and Air Conditioned :D :D :D :D I have a nice house for my wife and I have a nice shop for me :D Now if I could only keep my shop as clean as she keeps the house :help: But hey its my shop and it works for me and thats all that counts :wink: 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:56 pm
by Larry B
Thought I'd check the bottom to see if I did good job. Cross measured from each side of bottom of transom to tip of bow and just like I figured It's out of square, don't know if I'll mess with it or just leave it :doh: It's 1/32" out :!: ya think it will be OK????? :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:17 pm
by Cracker Larry
I'd probably try to pull it out, but that's just me and I ain't right :help: If it's 1/32 longer on one side than the other, then it's really only out 1/64 from center, a trivial amount, unless you ain't right either :lol: Who besides you will ever put a string on it?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:00 pm
by cape man
Man am I glad I didn't pull a string like that!!! Pat yourself on the back and move on! Don't you ever come close to my boat with that kind of scrutiny! :D :D :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:32 pm
by Larry B
Well had a pretty good day. Got the Chine and Transom taped. Man thats a workout.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:43 pm
by peter-curacao
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:58 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Peter, I owe it to all the people here who do excellent work, you included. Now If I could just learn how to be neat while doing a good job :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:20 am
by Bowmovement
Looks good Larry. Keep up the good work.

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:49 pm
by cape man
She definitely is getting stronger now. all your laminations look great.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:13 am
by TomW
Your building a great looking boat there Larry.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:18 am
by Larry B
Thanks Guys, I hope I can come close to the bar that has been set. If I only get close, I'll still have a very nice boat.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:40 pm
by Larry B
Well after I decided what to do with the spray rails I got some work done. Got some glass on the Port side of the spray rail. Still need to do the Starboard before glassing bottom. Copied Cracker Larry and put a extra layer of 12 oz biax on the bottom and Transom. If all goes well I'll finish the glass this week and start fairing :D
So here are some pictures of where I'm at:
Don't know why the pictures looks like it does, but there are no Air Bubbles :doh:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:42 pm
by cape man
Mine Sweeper! Ice Breaker! She will be tough! Guess you are now a proud member of the "I Don't Care How Much Epoxy I Use" club. Welcome! The pictures came out the same when I took them at that stage. The laminations look good from here.

You won't regret the extra glass, but I would seriously think about raising the deck at least 1" with the extra weight.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:26 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Mine Sweeper! Ice Breaker! She will be tough! Guess you are now a proud member of the "I Don't Care How Much Epoxy I Use" club. Welcome! The pictures came out the same when I took them at that stage. The laminations look good from here.

You won't regret the extra glass, but I would seriously think about raising the deck at least 1" with the extra weight.
man thats correct about the I don't care how much epoxy I use club :!: At this stage I'm in it 6 1/2 gallons.
If I stayed within the BOM I'd have 1 gallon to finish it :doh: And I believe it will take more than that just to get the glass on the bottom :help: I just received my new shipment of 6 gallons so I'm good to go for awhile.
If all goes well I'm hoping to have it ready to flip right side up in January. Probably depend on how much fairing??? And at least a week to do the graphite bottom and spray rails.
I did raise the deck a full 1/2" and I think I'm going to just leave it there.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:56 pm
by cape man
With two in the boat mine doesn't drain at rest. I built the sole to plans but added lots of extra weight. The deck drains nice when on plane and I pull the plugs for the scuppers. With 40 gallons of gas and a large fore deck you probably won't drain at rest either with a couple of folks in and some gear, but you'll be fine. Looking really nice! Keep going!

Really like the spray rails you built.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:11 pm
by Larry B
Had a good day today. Got the bottom glass all complete :D Man that's a job for one person. Almost 6 hrs steady, mixing 12 oz at a time. Could have mixed more but 12 was easy to mix and just had to keep mixing and mixing until done. Was able to get the biax over the spray rails. Problem is I'm going to have to wait until I flip it in order to fair the tops of the rails. I don't work well on my back with stuff falling in my eyes and ears :roll: But it will be easier to paint the bottom of the rail when I flip than it would be to fair the top of the rail.
Probably start on that top panel tomorrow, as somebody didn't mask it off like I told him to do :wink: So lots of drips to sand off. Maybe get my skeg built. Or maybe just say I'm going to take a day off and take a nap :D :D
So this is where were at now:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:10 pm
by Bowmovement
Dang Larry, you work fast. Good looking glass job

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:24 am
by cape man
Or maybe just say I'm going to take a day off and take a nap
You'll only dream of epoxy.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:42 am
by Larry B
cape man wrote:
Or maybe just say I'm going to take a day off and take a nap
You'll only dream of epoxy.
Aint that the truth. When I get down to about 5 gallons I start getting nervous and start to put an order together.
My biggest holdup is going to be a gas tank. I'm still looking, but might have to pay full price to get one and keep building :doh: Oh well like CL says: it's just a thing :wink: When I started this project, I knew I was going to have to sell my Harley to buy the trailer and motor, just hoping I don't have to sell it to buy Epoxy :help: It's the money thing that could slow me down on the build :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:24 am
by cape man
Post the dimensions for the gas tank and maybe one of us might come across a deal before you need to install it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:53 am
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Post the dimensions for the gas tank and maybe one of us might come across a deal before you need to install it.
Hmmmmmmm, Dimensions :doh: Well aprox. 32"x32"x11" The 11" is probably the most important. I just don't want my deck too high. I'm probably going to have to wait till I flip it to get the exact measurements that I could live with??? I really want 40 gal. but could probably live with 35 if I had to.

Well I've got a Skeg to go make :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:15 am
by TomW
Larry why such a big tank with a 60HP motor. A 30 gallon tank will get you well over 200 miles on a fill up. You will have more options with the 30 gallon tank. I'm going with a 30 on my 75 and expect to do a lot of trolling and still have fuel left over after a full day. If you need that much you need it. Just asking the question. :D

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:31 am
by Cracker Larry
Tom has a point, that's a lot of tankage for a 60 hp 4 stroke. Unless you really have a need for a 400 mile range? I put in the 40 gallon, hoping for a 200 mile range. We make some long trips. What I actually got was a 300 mile range, with the 70 hp 2 stroke.

My concern now is that it sits in the tank too long. I add stabilizer every time I fuel, but I don't fuel very often. In fact, the last time I fueled was Labor Day week, returning from Cape Fear NC. I filled in Beaufort SC, and ran 120 miles back home. Since then I've run at least 10 more fishing trips and still have almost 1/2 tank of gas in the boat. I'm worried that it's sitting too long and going bad, and water is condensing in the empty space. Think I'll go fishing a couple times in the next few days, if the weather allows, and try to burn some more off :idea:

Keeping it full will reduce condensation, but it could take several months to burn a full tank with our normal usage. That's a long time to store fuel of today's quality. And then you're carrying the extra weight around all the time too.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:54 am
by Larry B
Tom, Larry, some very good points. Infact so good I think I'll go down to a 30. It makes sense to me, bigger is not always better.
OK, got the skeg glued and now back on the hunt for a smaller tank.
Gotta love this forum, Keeps your mind right, and I need all the help I can get in making decisions on this boat :doh:

Thanks for your help

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:06 pm
by Larry B
Speaking of Skegs, how far forward of the transom does it need to be??

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:12 pm
by Cracker Larry
Mine's only about 8", doesn't seem to cause any trouble.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:14 pm
by Larry B
WOW, I really thought I'd have a hard time finding a skeg shoe, So I started by going to the big box store. Went to customer service and ask where I might find a aluminum skeg shoe??? :?: She wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but right away she said on isle 3, but all we carry are the Cracker Larry skeg shoes? I said cool that's the one I want :D :D Went down to isle 3 and there they were. Picked it up and came home:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:17 pm
by TomW
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:29 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Mine's only about 8", doesn't seem to cause any trouble.
Larry, are you sure this is 8"?? I know pictures are decieving but this looks more like 4" because I'm looking at the transom tape line? Not trying to be nit picky but when I lay it out at 8" it really looks to far forward. :doh:
Let me know if you could?
Thanks,

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:39 am
by Cracker Larry
Picky, picky, stand by, I'll go measure it :lol: Doesn't look like 8, does it ?

OK, dang it's cold outside 8O It's 5 1/2". CRS syndrome :?

I didn't think there would be much market for my patented oyster proof skeg shoe in Arizona. Keep those royalty checks flowing 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:55 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Picky, picky, stand by, I'll go measure it :lol: Doesn't look like 8, does it ?

OK, dang it's cold outside 8O It's 5 1/2". CRS syndrome :?

I didn't think there would be much market for my patented oyster proof skeg shoe in Arizona. Keep those royalty checks flowing 8)
Thanks Larry, sorry to get you out in the cold :wink: I get kinda anal about things sometimes, and I know about the CRS, (what did that stand for :doh: ) Oh well.

Yea, I'll pay my royalty fee, Lets see a 10% royalty, on my 25 dollar patented oyster proof skeg shoe, (dang oysters are multiplying fast here in AZ) So I owe you $2.25, How a beer when we meet???

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:42 pm
by cape man
Larry,

When making the skeg shoe, if you use a piece of zinc like Larry and I did, make sure to shape it on the grinder so it doesn't stick out at all. I am having some "popping" in the prop and I think it is turbulance created by the zinc. Nothing critical, but a bit annoying.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:37 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Larry,

When making the skeg shoe, if you use a piece of zinc like Larry and I did, make sure to shape it on the grinder so it doesn't stick out at all. I am having some "popping" in the prop and I think it is turbulance created by the zinc. Nothing critical, but a bit annoying.
Craig, thanks for the heads up, but I'm not using zinc. I found some aluminum 1/4x20 screws so everything is aluminum and there shouldn't be a problem. I also did a non-scientific test and I believe you could just woodflour it to the skeg and it would be there forever. I couldn't get the bond to break even on a piece that I didn't even clean. With the cleaned, sanded, and etched there aint noway it's coming off, but still had to put the screws in :wink: Just to be safe.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:14 am
by Larry B
Well after listening to what others had to say, (and my wife says I never listen????) I've decided on the smaller tank. This is the one I believe I'm going to get: Moeller FT2508 25 Gallon Unless someone has some other recomendations? I will only need the extra fuel on occasion so during those times I'll take 3- 5 gallon containers with me which will give me all the fuel I need.
Also by going with the smaller tank I can get at least a extra 12" deck space, which can be used for extra fuel when needed.
Thanks Tom and Cracker Larry for your input on this.
No more pondering on the Gas Tank :wink: On with the fairing.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:42 pm
by TomW
That should do you fine 8)

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:41 am
by Larry B
Well, I was going to do a Sterling paint job, but it's just out of my price range :help: So I ordered the System Three LPU. It was a tough decision but you gotta do what you gotta do. It will save me over 300 bucks.
Going to paint the bottom panel before flipping and the top panel after everything is done.
That dang spray rail is taking alot of time trying to make it look good. And with it being the size it is, I'm going to graphite the bottom of the rail and not do the top until I can fair it better after I flip it. I know it sounds wierd doing it this way, but I'm not going to sand that fiberglass and then fair and sand while on my back, I'd probably fall asleep :doh:
Hope ya'll have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:42 pm
by Larry B
Well still plugging away.
Got the fairing to my satisfaction, so now starting to prime and graphite the bottom.
I'm going to finish the bottom panel and bottom of spray rail and then do the top panel when I flip it. I didn't want to wait for 7 days for the primer to set before doing the graphite bottom so I taped it and going to get the primer done and sanded and then the bottom graphite and then tape it and paint the bottom panel to it's finish. That way when I flip it, I'll only have the top panel to worry about. Anyway here is a picture of where I'm at today:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:11 pm
by TomW
Man that boat looks big in that picture.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:57 pm
by Larry B
Well changed my mind on the spray rails. I went ahead and primed them. Man they look much better than I thought they would. Guess that extra bit of fairing paid off. Still have to fair the tops after I flip it. Anyway thought the spray rails looked great and wanted to post a picture.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:53 pm
by Cracker Larry
I see one major thing wrong with those spray rails :doh: ......

They aren't on my boat :lol: Looks great Larry 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:03 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I see one major thing wrong with those spray rails :doh: ......

They aren't on my boat :lol: Looks great Larry 8)
I read that first line and thought OH Shucks(different word) what did I forget :doh: Then got to the second sentence and went WHEwwwwwwww, thanks for the compliment.

Yes they protrude 1 7/8" from the panel, thought about putting a sharp edge, but didn't want it shin height as I'm good at banging into things. I'm hoping the rounded edge works ok. Figure it will be better than nothing?????

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:46 am
by TomW
My only question is why didn't you take the spray rails all the way to the transom. The spray is going to come off the ends of them now. :doh: It won't matter much as there isn't much behind them, but?

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:06 am
by Larry B
TomW wrote:My only question is why didn't you take the spray rails all the way to the transom. The spray is going to come off the ends of them now. :doh: It won't matter much as there isn't much behind them, but?

Tom
UH, Well because I didn't think I needed them there??????? :doh: Dang you guys confuse me sometimes :doh: Are you just pulling my leg or are you serious Tom???? Only reason is I started them past the Bow and wanted to stop them before the transom just for looks I guess???

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:44 am
by Cracker Larry
They won't be of any benefit extending them to the transom, nobody rides back there anyway. The spray that comes in the boat is broad on the bow and you've got that covered.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:52 pm
by Larry B
Got some BLACK on it this morning. First coat of graphite.
here are some pictures:


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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:08 pm
by wegcagle
Looks great Larry. I put down 3 coats of graphite and wet sanded, then put down one more coat as thin and smooth as possible. It wasn't perfect, but I thought it turned out great.

I will say that I wouldn't let anyone get a hold of that cord :help: :help: :help:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:36 pm
by Larry B
wegcagle wrote:Looks great Larry. I put down 3 coats of graphite and wet sanded, then put down one more coat as thin and smooth as possible. It wasn't perfect, but I thought it turned out great.

I will say that I wouldn't let anyone get a hold of that cord :help: :help: :help:

Will
Not to worry, it's in the Ground, Just wanted the boat grounded :wink: And this was the easiest way to do it.
I'm doing 25% graphite, is that what you used?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:49 pm
by BassMunn
Hey Larry the boat is looking nice, The spray rails look good.
I seem to be the only person that couldn't get the graphite thing right, mine was a funny light grey and looked like it had chickenpox :roll:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:55 pm
by wegcagle
First coat was about 25%, but the goal is to get as much graphite in there as humanly possible, and keep the finish perfect 8) After the first coat I went to about 33%, and the final coat was 33% measured and then another splash or 2 of graphite :wink: for good measure probably closer to 40% by volume. I believe I read somewhere around here that a few builders were able to go up to 50% by volume 8O Talk about a tough bottom. Here was my process, not perfect, but worked for me.

First using a cheap kitchen sifter I sifted the graphite from my volume measured container into another container and then went back and forth sifting into the other container for 3-4 sifts total. Then I would mix my epoxy in a 3rd container to the desired volume. Then holding the sifter above the well stirred epoxy I did a final sifting using about 1/4-1/3 of the graphite at a time and stirred it in the epoxy really well, and repeated until all of the graphite was well stirred in with as few scoobies as possible. Then I rolled and tipped the graphite/epoxy on the boat until I was happy.

The consensus seems to be the more you presift the graphite, and the more you stir it evenly in the epoxy, the better the end result.
So really it is what works best for you. Good news is if you screw up you get to sand a little more :lol: :lol:

Like I said before she's looking GREAT.

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:18 pm
by Larry B
BassMunn wrote:Hey Larry the boat is looking nice, The spray rails look good.
I seem to be the only person that couldn't get the graphite thing right, mine was a funny light grey and looked like it had chickenpox :roll:
Thanks BassMunn, coming from you that means alot.
I'm not done with the graphite yet so give me time to screw it up. Already pulled the tape too soon and had a couple of runs where I tried to add more graphite epoxy (mental note: don't do that again??) So now I have a couple of runs to deal with before I put my second coat on.
I'll keep ya'll posted as to how it turns out. My next coat will be without the ground wire to finish my experiment :wink: I really want this part done so I can flip it and start on the inside. :D

wegcagle, thanks for info

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:18 pm
by Larry B
Cape Man got me all excited after his trip report, so here are a couple of pictures of where I'm at today. I hope to flip it this coming weekend and start on the inside. With this cold spell were having I had to put the graphite on in 65 degree temps and had a heck of a time getting it to flow good. Didn't matter how much I tipped it, I still ended up with orange peel. I sanded between coats so I started real smooth each coat. Ended up with 4 coats and said good enough. Looks great except for some orange peel.
I did end up with some nice sharp edges :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:19 pm
by wegcagle
Looks dang nice from here 8) Great picture with the reflection from the garage door :wink:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:18 pm
by Cracker Larry
That looks great. It's time to call the bottom done, and move on. Another milestone passed :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:04 pm
by cape man
Cape Man got me all excited after his trip report
I didn't report that I ran the boat hard aground and was real glad I had added the graphite. While it doesn't reflect like glass anymore, there is nothing to show for the event. Good stuff! Your's is looking like she wants to sit on it for a few months at this point :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:20 pm
by Larry B
CL, Yes the bottom is what it is, DONE!!!!!!!!!! and a great milestone it is :D
It's looking good to flip by this weekend, just want the bottom to be fully cured.

Craig, no you didn't mention you ran aground, but glad to hear the graphite held up. Thats one reason I did the graphite is I'll beach the boat quite a bit where I plan to camp and fish. yes she is ready to sit on her bottom for quite a few months.

Sometimes the boat building goes faster than the money comes in :doh: But I've got enough supplies to keep me going for awhile, Been having alot of dental work done for my wife (no insurance) and that takes alot of boat money :help: Sure glad Mexico is close :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:04 am
by Larry B
Here are some pictures of my spray rail. It protrudes out from the hull 1 7/8", sure hope it works :doh:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:08 am
by Cracker Larry
I'm certain it will work better than mine :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:08 am
by Larry B
I posted this yesterday, but the forum gave me a wrong time so I deleted it and then the forum wouldn't let me post till after that time :doh: Remember when it did it to Shine the day before????

Oh Well,
Anyway this is where I'm at. I've got the bottom done and the bottom panel painted. Going to flip it today or tomorrow. It took me 12 weeks from start to this point. Can't give a launch date, to many things to do.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:22 am
by cape man
It took me 20 weeks to get where you are at. Lookin' great man!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:53 pm
by Larry B
Well, I just couldnt' wait. I flipped it :D One thing I can say is it's easier flipping it the other way than back on to it's bottom :?
But I got it done by myself with a bad knee and limping around. Looked like a three legged dog :lol:
So now more fun begins, but I think this is going to take more of a toll on my than the outside, just because I have to be in the boat for a major part of it and leaning over the side for the rest.
I'll have to say she sure looks pretty :D :D

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I think the spray rail is going to work, It ended up with the down angle way more than I had planned, but I think it looks good.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:06 pm
by cape man
WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!! I paid two six packs to have six guys help me flip. Getting it done alone is a feat. Now the real fun begins! Looks great.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:21 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!! I paid two six packs to have six guys help me flip. Getting it done alone is a feat. Now the real fun begins! Looks great.
Craig, I'm going to go down 2 six packs BY MYSELF right now :D :D :D Well OK in my younger days, I'll probably just have about 3 beers and fall asleep :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:43 pm
by BassMunn
Congrats on the flip. You couldn't ask for a better angle on your spray rails, they'll be perfect

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:04 pm
by gk108
If you have a bad knee, try to avoid standing outside of the hull, leaning over to work inside on the chine and side panels. Get inside the boat and sit on a box if you have to. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:34 pm
by Larry B
gk108 wrote:If you have a bad knee, try to avoid standing outside of the hull, leaning over to work inside on the chine and side panels. Get inside the boat and sit on a box if you have to. :wink:
It just started the other day. It feels great if it's straight, it's bending it that hurts like hell :( Seems to be getting better today. I can't just not do nothing I've got to work it out, good or bad. I figure it will get better or worse :doh: I just do all the bending with my good knee :D
But thanks for your concern and advice :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:56 pm
by gk108
Yeah, I'm blaming it on winter. Not this one in particular, but the other 53 along with it seem to have a cumulative effect. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:12 am
by Bowmovement
Looks good Larry. I know what ya mean about the knees. If I squat for a while or keep any pressure on my knees I can barely stand up afterwards. I am only 32 so I cant wait to see how bad it gets later :help: I cant really blame winter either. It will be 75 today, Jan. 15. I love it

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:36 am
by Larry B
Bowmovement wrote:Looks good Larry. I know what ya mean about the knees. If I squat for a while or keep any pressure on my knees I can barely stand up afterwards. I am only 32 so I cant wait to see how bad it gets later :help: I cant really blame winter either. It will be 75 today, Jan. 15. I love it

Matt
Thanks Matt,
Yea, I climbed ladders all my life, but its just been here lately that my knee has given me any problem. It feels much better today. Guess I can't complain much, I'm 61 and have never had any health issues :D Knock on Wood :D Only broken bone was a elbow, radial head that they removed, (fell off a dang ladder, or should I say the ladder left me?? :doh: ) That was back when I was about 33, they said I'd have Arthritis by the time I was 40, well at 61 there is no sight of Arthritis so I proved them wrong. :lol: :lol:
I can't blame the weather here either, been in the mid 70's all week :D :D
Just sanding today, Lots and Lots of sanding :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:47 am
by Cracker Larry
It's sure looking good Larry 8)

My back has almost recovered from all the leaning over glassing the inside. Those frame sections are a killer.

This is the warmest day we've had in 4 weeks, only 30 this morning, supposed to hit 60 :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:56 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:It's sure looking good Larry 8)

My back has almost recovered from all the leaning over glassing the inside. Those frame sections are a killer.

This is the warmest day we've had in 4 weeks, only 30 this morning, supposed to hit 60 :D
Thanks Larry,
Yea thats the part I'm not looking forward to. Those frame sections, you have to be in the boat, and it's the bending that really gets to me. But I'll get er done for sure :D
Shopping for a tank this morning also. Have to have it so I know where to put my conduits.
Glad to hear it's warming up a bit

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:36 pm
by Larry B
Ok, I've been kickin around some boat names. I know this comes up with everyone building a boat. I started now because I figured it would take me months and months to come up with a name. Well sitting here tonight with the wife she comes up with this: Fishin' Hull

I checked around the net and couldn't find it on a quick search, but I'm thinkin it's already out there, but I like it anyway.
So what ya'll think??

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:10 am
by JamesT
Been following your build, and i must say, it looks really great. I know im a little late, but was curious how the "grounding" worked out on keeping the dust from getting on the bottom during the graphite process? Would you also do this when painting?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:31 am
by Larry B
JamesT wrote:Been following your build, and i must say, it looks really great. I know im a little late, but was curious how the "grounding" worked out on keeping the dust from getting on the bottom during the graphite process? Would you also do this when painting?
As far as I can tell the Experiment Failed, didn't seem to improve anything. :doh: I took it off and put another coat of epoxy graphite on and didn't seem to have anymore dust than with the ground wire. Depending on where your at it wouldn't be a big deal. Here in AZ its so dry that everything you touch you get shocked. Especially in the summer. It really gets anoying. Get out of your car get shocked, get into your car get shocked, go into the house get shocked. So I would say that the most effective way is to have humidity. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:22 am
by cape man
I like the name.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:21 pm
by Joe H
Fishin' Hull
I've been around boats for awhile now, I don't think I've ever seen that one.

I like it too!

Joe H

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:00 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Cape Man and Joe,
So with you two and me thats Three yes's, thats enough for me, Fishin' Hull it will be :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:12 pm
by Larry B
Got some questions?
I'm getting ready to go pick up my chase tubes and Need to know the correct size? I hope Cracker Larry and Cape Man read this and can help?
I'm thinking 2" for the steering?
1" for fuel line?
1/2" for electrical?
Probably use the blue flexible for the bow lights and fuel sending unit?

Also I went to the big Box today to get a clamping board, all I could find is Green Douglas Fir? Will this be OK? I've found some pretty good pieces, not perfect but good?

Oh and one more for CL, I think I read somewhere that you had a problem with your forward bulkhead because of where you installed your bow lights? In hind sight would you install them a bit more forward?

Thanks in advance.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:53 pm
by wegcagle
I used one 2" pipe for steering, one 2 inch pipe for electrical from the console to the stern, one 1" from console to the stern for the gas line, and one 3/4" from the console to the bow for electrical. As far as a clamping board, I bought southern yellow pine and tried to minimize the knots. That seems to be the consensus around here for the best wood, but I'll let other more knowledgable folks answer whether or not the fir is good. On a side note you started your build almost a year after me, and we are pretty close to the same point of the build :oops: So you gotta slow down, you're killin' me here :lol: :lol:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:35 pm
by Cracker Larry
Yes, 2" will easily handle steering, throttle and shift cables in the same pipe. Use electrical conduit with sweep 90's for everything.
I used 2 -1" for electrical from console to the stern, and they gave me a fit, too tight and I had to cut the factory ends off the engine harnesses, then splice them back on. The #4 battery cable took grease and come-a-long to pull :wink: I'd use either a 2" or 2X - 1 1/2" next time. I used 1" for the fuel line, it also gave me a fit to pull. I'd go to 1 1/4" for that.

No trouble that I can remember with the side lights, each have a separate run of flexible 3/4. Another flexible 3/4 from console to fuel tank for sending unit and ground. And another 1" from the console to the bilge sump for pumps and transducer. The transducer cables have a molded plug that you don't want to cut and splice :wink:

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I think I read somewhere that you had a problem with your forward bulkhead because of where you installed your bow lights? In hind sight would you install them a bit more forward?
Now I remember. No, the lights are where they need to be for correct arcs of visibility. That bulkhead isn't even on the plans, it was fitted to provide a flotation chamber, I keep all my fenders in that upper locker. I wanted it to rest on the frame below, who's exact position was determined by the fuel tank size, which I didn't know yet.... It just sort of worked out like that, mostly because I didn't plan ahead as thoroughly as you are :lol: I had to fit the bulkhead around part of the backing plate the lights are attached to. No big deal :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:27 pm
by Larry B
On a side note you started your build almost a year after me, and we are pretty close to the same point of the build So you gotta slow down, you're killin' me here
Well I'm not trying to hurry, it's just that I'm able to spend lots of time on it. Raining all day today, but the shop was nice and dry :D Just don't hurry, go at your own speed and be happy with what you build. and looking at your build You'll be VERY Happy.
Now I remember. No, the lights are where they need to be for correct arcs of visibility
Larry, just how did you determine this? That was going to be my next question as to the placement of the bow lights. I received them today and want to cut holes :D
Thanks for taking the time to fully answer my other questions. I was going to buy the conduit today while at the Big Box, but thought I'd wait and ask???
btw, whats your thoughts on the Green Douglas Fir? I was thinking maybe I needed kiln dried? Or I guess I can make sure it's dry before I install it, but chanches are it will warp big time :doh:
It just sort of worked out like that, mostly because I didn't plan ahead as thoroughly as you are
Only because you didn't have someone like yourself who had documented the build so well on an identical boat build :D believe me, I'm not usually this thorough :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:13 pm
by Cracker Larry
Larry, just how did you determine this? That was going to be my next question as to the placement of the bow lights. I received them today and want to cut holes
:lol: Well, most people just slap them in there somewhere, and I've never know anyone whose arc of visibility has been measured by authorities either, but I tried to do it right. Your red and green lights, usually called bow lights, more correctly side lights, have a specific field of visibility that they are supposed to cover, and no further. They should be visible in exactly a 112.5 degree arc from dead on the bow, and not bleed over to the other side or extend further aft.

OK, so that means that it's 22.5 degrees aft of the beam. So I ran a 2X4 across the gunwales at the widest point and clamped it down, 90 degrees to the center line. Then I drove a finishing nail even with the side of the boat, in the top of the 2X4, just on one side. Next, I set my protractor at 22.5 degrees and squared it to the 2X4, indexed on the finishing nail.

Ya with me so far? Then I tied a string on the finishing nail and stretched it out about 75 feet in the yard and driveway. Aligned the string to the 22.5 degrees on the protractor and drove a stake in the ground and tied it off. This string marks the point where the light has to be visible from, but not past.

Then powered up the light temporarily and slid it up and down the hull. If it's visible behind the string, slide it forward until it disappears...

Did anyone mention I tend to get anal about things :doh: Oh yeah, remember red goes on the port side.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:16 pm
by Cracker Larry
btw, whats your thoughts on the Green Douglas Fir? I was thinking maybe I needed kiln dried?
No, no green lumber. The fir would be fine if it was dry but don't try to glass over any kind of green wood, that clamping board is too important to risk any problems.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:21 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
Ya with me so far

Did anyone mention I tend to get anal about things :doh: Oh yeah, remember red goes on the port side.
WOW, thanks for all that information 8O , My shop isn't long enough :doh:
How about me cheating a bit and you just give me some measurements :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:24 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
btw, whats your thoughts on the Green Douglas Fir? I was thinking maybe I needed kiln dried?
No, no green lumber. The fir would be fine if it was dry but don't try to glass over any kind of green wood, that clamping board is too important to risk any problems.
Yea, I bought a piece today and really not happy with it. I'm thinking about just laminating some marine plywood to get my
1 1/2" thickness. There is just some things here in Az. that are not easy to come by. :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:40 pm
by TomW
Larry B the C17 does just that if that helps you on your decision. Only change I made was I took it all the way down to the hull so it matched the transom. So I have two 3/4" peices glued together. Jacques has gone to plywood in his newer designs since Mahogany has gotten so expensive and it may be hard for people in some places to get good hardwood.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:45 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Tom, I also posted the question in power boats.
I don't want to go all the way, I just want to make it the same size as is specified. Seems it would be as strong as solid lumber? Maybe stronger.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:51 pm
by TomW
Jacques answered a question about this last week or the week before that you could do it. I went all the way because I am putting a little bigger motor on and cutting out as if for twin motors for sort of a dive platform.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:53 pm
by Cracker Larry
How about me cheating a bit and you just give me some measurements
I sorta figured that was coming :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
How about me cheating a bit and you just give me some measurements
I sorta figured that was coming :lol:
Your a smart Cracker there Larry :wink: :D :wink: :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:01 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Jacques answered a question about this last week or the week before that you could do it. I went all the way because I am putting a little bigger motor on and cutting out as if for twin motors for sort of a dive platform.

Tom
Mine will be 3 pieces of 1/2", I think I have enough because I used cheap wood for my molds just in case something like this came up :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:42 pm
by Cracker Larry
I think that would be far preferable to green lumber, even if you had to make it a little thicker. I'd get Jacques recommendation on the thickness of the plywood substitute, since you are losing the continuous grain orientation of solid lumber. Maybe 1/2" thicker than dimensional lumber would be my guess.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:16 pm
by Larry B
Well finally got the transom deal worked out. I'm much happier with this, it will go below the stringers and be taped.
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Hoping to get it installed this weekend and get my frames coated with epoxy and the cleats glued on. Then install the frames and start on my chase tubes :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:55 pm
by cottontop
Looking goood, Larry. John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:02 pm
by Cracker Larry
Looks great, that's a clean job. It will be a lot easier to glue the clamps to the frames on a work bench than it will be bending over the boat, good thinking. If you are organized enough you can drill most of the holes for your chase tubes on the drill press too, saves a lot of back strain :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:19 pm
by Larry B
John and Larry, Thanks.
But it's because of you guys that I'm able to plan better than I would have. If not for CL I would probably be putting cleats on the frames while in the boat :doh: And that would really Suck :!: :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:43 pm
by cape man
She will have a very sturdy rear end with that ply. As Larry and John said...looking great man. You do very clean work.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:31 am
by Cracker Larry
How about me cheating a bit and you just give me some measurements :wink:
I sorta figured that was coming :lol:
To the center of the bulb, 4.5" below the sheer (including gunwale deck thickness of 3/8) and 30" behind the bow, on the same plane below the sheer.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:12 am
by Larry B
Thank you much Larry :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:37 am
by Larry B
Well had some time on my hands over the weekend (waiting for epoxy to dry) and thought I'd make my outboard drilling template. It turned out pretty nice if I say so myself :D I used the 1 1/2" doug fir that wasn't good enough for my transom and some 1/2" Type I Copper tube I had from another project :D Just happens that the 1/2" copper has a ID of 17/32" give or take a couple thousands??? and 17/32" is the proper drill size for the mount holes. I thought I'd have to go buy a bushing but the copper worked great. Then measured and remeasured and cross measured and then after making sure the drill press was drilling right at 90° I drilled the holes 5/8" which is about the OD size of the copper tube. Epoxied them in the holes and let it dry. Give it a good sanding and made sure it was flat and my measurements were still correct. I didn't need this yet and probably won't for quite awhile so I'll put epoxy on it to keep it from warping :doh: Anyway here is a picture:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:56 am
by cape man
Sweet! That'll do nicely and a good way to use extra material and time.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:48 pm
by Larry B
Well, just thought I'd post a update for anyone who cares :wink: No pictures today, maybe tomorrow??
I've just about got my frames taped in. I've got to cut my sole and place it temporary to locate my fuel tank and console. That way I can locate my chase tubes. Then I can remove the sole, install my chase tubes, put cleats on the stringers, and FOAM this thing :D If all goes good I should be able to glue the sole down by next weekend :D
I appreciate all the help you guys have given me, especally CL, Craig, and Tom.
I received my Plywood on Oct, 22nd so I believe I'm moving along at a pretty good rate :D But I want to say, I'm not in a hurry and I'm building this boat above specs :D The weather has been just perfect, about a steady 65° in my shop. I'm working with Slow Hardner and can only do about one project per day, but it allows me to come back the next day and work wet on wet.
So thats about it in a nutshell, I'm going to open another Corona now :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:38 pm
by Cracker Larry
Toasting ya with a George Dickle :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:21 pm
by Bowmovement
I'll join yall with a Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA

Cheers

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:01 am
by Larry B
Larry B wrote: If all goes good I should be able to glue the sole down by next weekend :D
Ain't going to happen :help: Just got excited and thought it would happen, but there's things to do that I forgot and need to order some things. Have to make a trip to Mexico this weekend, and also decided I'm going to make dang sure I've got everything I need to do under there before I glue it down :doh:
I did get my sole cut out though :D Started drawing up my console, thats alot of work. Spent all day drawing and erasing, drawing, erasing :doh: But I think I have it now. I'm going to draw it on plywood now :help:
Got my holes drilled in the Transom for the motor, going to fill them today. Alot easier to drill and fill before the motor well is in.
Sure feel for you guys in the cold part of the country. It's in the 60's here and I can't wait for warmer weather. Problem is when it gets warm it gets HOT not long after that.
Oh Well, I'll just keep plugging along and it will get done when it gets done :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:05 am
by Larry B
Well, been almost 2 weeks since I've done anything (except Ponder) and I'm getting pretty good at it :D Starting to understand how sometimes you just get to a point and keep looking and pondering just to make sure it's right. I'll go out and start to do something and then stop. :doh: Something is telling me to wait, so I do.
I do have my console going together while pondering, but now I'm at a point on it that I have to ponder somemore :doh: :doh: I can't finish it up until I get my chase tubes in and can get my controls ordered to see where I'm at :doh:
I believe my tank hold downs will be here today, so I'm hoping to finalize the tank location and hold down decision :doh:
I've got to get my chase tube in, and I'm hoping for today but we'll see :doh: As soon as I get them in, I'll post a picture, till then it just looks the same.
Hey where's the other OD18's being built?? I thought there were a couple of us building at the same time?? Or maybe I've missed some post :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:54 pm
by Larry B
OK, finally getting something done. I've got my chase tubes fitted. Still have to remove them and seal the holes with epoxy but that should be easy compared to fitting the tubes. Anyway here is a picture of how it looks:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:27 pm
by Larry B
Well seems as we have some GREAT weather I thought I'd take a break and get my FL14 cleaned up and put some guide rails on the trailer. Just might go to the lake tomorrow and see if I can catch a fish or two :D But main reason is to get Roscoe used to the boat. It will be his first time in a boat. I've got a PFD for him just in case he decides to jump ship out in the middle of the lake :help:
Anyway some pictures:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:10 pm
by Cracker Larry
That's a nice looking boat, and a great looking dog 8) I know a lot of people put PFDs on dogs, but I've never met a dog than can't swim better than I do, and I swim pretty good. Sam would feel stupid wearing a life jacket, he'd hate for any of his dog friends to see him :lol: Poor Roscoe :(
Well seems as we have some GREAT weather
Lucky you! Cold, windy, cloudy. I've been out doing some maintenance on the boat and trailer myself. You ever turn an easy 2 minute job into an afternoons aggravation that still aint over? I was just going to pump some grease into the zerk fittings on the engine and trailer. Engine was no problem. I pumped up the first Buddy Bearing on the trailer, and when I took the grease gun off, grease started shooting back through the zerk fitting. And squirted, and squirted, and squirted. The little ball check valve inside the fitting was gone, and the spring loaded cap just kept pumping out the grease. So I decide to open it up and relieve the pressure. It's held together with a "C" ring, which when I loosened one end, shot across the yard at high velocity with the spring following it. Took about 30 minutes to find it, under the water. Most of my yard is still under water. By this time my hands are getting so cold they hurt and I couldn't feel my fingers. Found all the parts, and dug around inside the wheel hub and found the little ball and spring of the check valve. Not a clue what was supposed to retain it, it's probably still in there somewhere. I jammed a toothpick in the hole, and broke it off to plug it. Then it took my greasy numb fingers 30 minutes to put it back together, holding in that big spring while trying to get the C ring back in it's slot, without using C ring pliers. Shot it across the yard twice more, but I learned it's trajectory. Finally got it all back together with a toothpick holding in the grease. Should have just left it apart, I've still got to fix it and ain't going boating anyway :?

That was wheel 1. Moved to wheel 2 and carefully inspected the check valve, ball was in place, has spring tension, so I pumped her up a few squirts and pulled off the gun. Grease is now shooting out the zerk fitting on wheel 2 :o Lovely. Shoved another toothpick in that one and broke it off. The hell with it. Need parts.

I had all intentions of changing the lower unit gear lube too, but after the wheel bearings, I'm scared to touch it. Gonna let the moon change before I do that :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:40 pm
by Larry B
Man, Larry thats makes for a crummy day for sure. I usually keep some grease zerks handy just because I've had that problem. I think it's just junk zerks and with the cold grease going in they just cant hold up. I think you made the right decision to not change the lower unit lube, after two bad zerks, who knows what could happen :help:

Suppose to be in the mid 70's for the next week or so :D :D :D

Yea, I also think the pfd's on dogs look stupid. But this will be the first time on the water for him and if he jumps ship in the middle of the lake and I can't fetch him at least he can float while he swims to shore. If Roscoe drowned because I didn't have a PFD on him, I might as well jump in and drown myself, because if I went home without him, my wife would kill me anyway. She doesn't say it, but I know she love's him more than me :wink: Sure gets his back scratched more than I do :doh:

Thanks for the compliment on the boat and dog,

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:41 pm
by peter-curacao
Looks good Larry! but don't you need cleats on your stringers? :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:43 pm
by Larry B
peter-curacao wrote:Looks good Larry! but don't you need cleats on your stringers? :doh:
Yep sure do, and they will get put on this coming week. Just wanted to prefit the tubes to make sure all was good to go.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:38 am
by cape man
Larry,

The chase tubes look great. Can't wait to see it with the foam in and sole down. Getting there now!!!

CL, I thought it was only me that crap like that happened to!!! I think I hate trailers. Heck, I know I do!

By the way Larry. The other boat is looking great. When did you finish that build?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:33 pm
by TomW
Larry the tubes look great.

CL what a bummer, sounds like my projects this winter. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:15 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Craig and Tom.
I hope you guys haven't jenks me on the trailer? I'm building mine :help:
Craig, I finished my FL14 about a year ago.

Well today was a very nice day at the lake. Didn't catch any fish, but enjoyed the day on the water with my dog. I wore shorts and t shirt. I brought some jackets but they were not needed :D I believe I've got myself a boat dog, and he loves to swim. This was his first time at the lake and he did great. He told me he was going to bite me if I even thought about putting that PFD on him again. He said he was so embarassed yesterday when Sam was laughling at him :oops: So no PFD today :D Anyway here a couple of pictures of him at the lake:

This was the look I got when I mentioned the PFD
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I think he's saying, I'll sure be glad when you get the OD18 finished
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This is the life :D
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Water was pretty rough :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:34 pm
by Cracker Larry
He told me he was going to bite me if I even thought about putting that PFD on him again. He said he was so embarassed yesterday when Sam was laughling at him :oops: So no PFD today
:D Sam says a dog can't help the behavior of his owner :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:01 pm
by Larry B
Forgot to mention. While getting ready to load the boat back on the trailer, a guy came by and said: Thats a nice boat, where did you buy it??? Man that feels good, when I told him I built it, then it was just oohss and ahhhsss, I said wait till you see my OD18 :D :D :D . Alot of people tell me, why don't you just buy a boat?? They are a dime a dozen these days, which is true, but some people just don't get it, the satisfaction of building your own and backing it into the lake and whoa and behold, IT FLOATS :D :D :D
anyway, just had to share that bit of info :D :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:11 pm
by peter-curacao
Larry B wrote:
peter-curacao wrote:Looks good Larry! but don't you need cleats on your stringers? :doh:
Yep sure do, and they will get put on this coming week. Just wanted to prefit the tubes to make sure all was good to go.
Wish I was that smart :? jeez at my build those tubes were A royal PITA because of to little space to drill :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:15 pm
by cape man
Forgot to mention. While getting ready to load the boat back on the trailer, a guy came by and said: Thats a nice boat, where did you buy it??? Man that feels good, when I told him I built it, then it was just oohss and ahhhsss, I said wait till you see my OD18 . Alot of people tell me, why don't you just buy a boat?? They are a dime a dozen these days, which is true, but some people just don't get it, the satisfaction of building your own and backing it into the lake and whoa and behold, IT FLOATS
anyway, just had to share that bit of info
I think that kinda captures the whole idea of this craziness! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:32 pm
by msujmccorm
While getting ready to load the boat back on the trailer, a guy came by and said: Thats a nice boat, where did you buy it???
It does feel good. The day I launched my fl14 a guy at the launch asked "Nice boat, what year is it?" My brother replied "Yesterday". The guy gave us a wierd look until we explained I had just finished building it the day before.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:03 pm
by peter-curacao
Larry B wrote:No problem, blemish away :D :D I think I blemish alot of threads and they haven't kicked me off the forum "yet" :doh:
Okay then Image
Rambo the sea Lion

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:05 pm
by TomW
Larry brought this over from CL's site. No problem with the leaning post. 8) Do you have a fax? I'll fax it to you if I can find it, It's been a year since I did it for CL so it is buried in other papers. :lol: Feel free to e-mail me or my cell is 828-488-6840

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:39 pm
by Larry B
Tom, You've Got Mail :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:42 pm
by TomW
Larry you got fax and mail! :D

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:10 pm
by Cracker Larry
8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:53 pm
by Larry B
Maybe someone has already posted this idea, but if not here is a idea to cut foam :D

First tape a string around the area to be cut out.
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Pour Foam and cut with string. Pull string slowly or it will get too hot and break.
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Use a putty knife to get it loose from the side where it went above the tape and lift the pieces off.
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btw, I knew I was missing something. I ran out of cleat material for this area, not I have to cut the foam out enough to put in my cleat :(

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:56 pm
by cape man
Love the string trick! You're getting there man! Starting to get close!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:50 pm
by peter-curacao
Larry B wrote:Maybe someone has already posted this idea, but if not here is a idea to cut foam :D
Jeeeeezzzz now you're telling me! Image Image

very nice work btw ImageAbout the cleat maybe you can use Joel's trick just squeeze thickened epoxy trough the seam this will form a small but big enough cleat under the sole

Edit sorry this won't work on the stringer side of course :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:02 pm
by wegcagle
NICE trick. Wish you would've posted that about a month ago :oops: Hopefully no one will have to look under my sole for many years though :D

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:23 pm
by Bowmovement
That is a nice little trick with the string there. More I put off building the more tips and tricks I learn.

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:41 pm
by Cracker Larry
Very slick trick there Larry 8) Funny how the simplest ideas can be the best. As far as I know you are the first to come up with that one. Beautiful :idea: :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:43 am
by TomW
Slick Larry! 8) I wonder if some left over 50 lb braid would work as well or better? :doh:

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:32 am
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Slick Larry! 8) I wonder if some left over 50 lb braid would work as well or better? :doh:

Tom
I'm sure it could. I'm trying a different method this next compartment. I'm using 16 guage solid copper wire with the insulation striped off. I tried this on a small piece of foam, It's the heat that cuts and believe me the wire GETS HOT :!: Don't ask me how I know, I just know :D :D Also I'm putting tape from the wire up about 2" to prevent the foam from sticking to the hull :D I've got alot of compartments so I might have it down by the time I finish. I'll keep posting on my results.
I've also got another idea for other parts. I got this idea from a mistake that Cracker Larry posted, love to learn from others mistakes :D I'll post it when I do it :D
I've got some 20# braid that I might try, I'll put it in with the copper wire, that way if one breaks I'll have a back up :D :D
It really makes a clean cut with very little mess :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:05 pm
by Bowmovement
Guitar string would probably work good. Cheap too

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:38 pm
by Larry B
Bowmovement wrote:Guitar string would probably work good. Cheap too
Thought about that but didn't have any handy :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:56 pm
by topwater
Guitar string would work real good..just ask the mafia. 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:16 pm
by peter-curacao
topwater wrote:Guitar string would work real good..just ask the mafia. 8O
I aksed them! :P they ain't building boats, ahhh forgetaboutit! 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:52 pm
by Larry B
And 6 Gallons of Foam later :help:

I put plastic on the bottom of the panels and poured foam under them.

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After the pour.

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Saved some trimming.

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And 6 Gallons Later :D :D :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:03 pm
by peter-curacao
COOL Image and clean !

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:26 pm
by TomW
Great looking pour Larry. You can even glue the sole to the foam now for some extra strength and solidity. :wink:

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:26 pm
by Cracker Larry
But you missed the pleasure of all the dust :doh: Nice technique 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:35 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Great looking pour Larry. You can even glue the sole to the foam now for some extra strength and solidity. :wink:

Tom
Tom, still had to do some sanding so it's not a perfect fit. And I'm so far over on my Epoxy it ain't even funny. I know CL and Craig used about 21 gallons. I'm already into mine 18.5 gallons and I know it will take more than 2.5 gallons to finish it. I think I'll be closer to 25 gallons when I'm finished :doh: :help: :doh: :roll: :wink: Shouldn't leak though :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:46 pm
by gstanfield
Looking good, you guys are really inspiring me to start my next boat, but I gotta finish this one first. I'm seriously thinking of the OD18 for my next boat even though my name's not Larry (would that be OK? It seems like a trend on here)

George :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:08 pm
by Cracker Larry
Not at all, Craig has the Clara, and John has Easy Morning, and I'm missing others, no offense to them. We probably got room for a George in the OD18 club :wink: It will be a good all purpose boat for when you move to Brunswick.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:19 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Not at all, Craig has the Clara, and John has Easy Morning, and I'm missing others, no offense to them. We probably got room for a George in the OD18 club :wink: It will be a good all purpose boat for when you move to Brunswick.
And SpeckTaker is building a OD18 now also. don't know his real name :doh:

Larry B's boat name is Fishin' Hull

Yep, think we need a George???

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:00 am
by gstanfield
Yep, I'm about 95% certain that this will be my next boat, a nice all purpose fishing/family craft. The move may or may not happen depending on the events of this month. I was all set to move when a position came about with another department and I have applied for it. I will find out by the end of the month if I get it or not. If I do get it I will hang around here for a couple more years just to make a nicer job history and enjoy the extra pay. If I don't get the job I will be looking to move a lot sooner.

Isn't it funny how just when you think you have life figured out you find yourself facing a decision that in no way fits your "plans" :o

Oh well, the upside to it is that if I don't move I will get to build another boat sooner and have more money to sink into it meaning my choices open up a little bit more :D

Oh, sorry for the threadjack :oops:

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:14 am
by Larry B
George, You can hijack my thread anytime :D Always like to hear what the other builders are up to. I'm thinking about passing up your way on my way to Sturgis this year. I usually stay in Casper for a night and then could stop and say hi to you :D On my way into Sturgis. Love riding the back roads of Wyoming :D I can also check out your FL14 :D

This is out in the Utah Desert Last Year :D :D :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:11 am
by gstanfield
You're welcome to stop in anytime. I'll be happy to go riding too. When I'm not out playin cop I also teach the MSF program and somehow manage to log about 8-10k a year on my bike despite our long winters and short summers :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:41 am
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:You're welcome to stop in anytime. I'll be happy to go riding too. When I'm not out playin cop

George

yes, that would be great, Probably have to put my baffles back in the pipes, Don't want to get a ticket :help: :help: Just can't help myself, I love loud pipes :D :D :D
btw, what do you ride???

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:23 pm
by gstanfield
No worries about baffles here, even our motor cops are running screaming eagle pipes :D I've ridden about ever bike out there over the years, mostly HD, Suzuki and lots and lots of Hondas. I currenly race a Suzuki sport quad (street plated for fun!) and my main ride is a 25th anniversary Honda VFR800. It's fun in the "go to jail if you get caught" kinda way 8O

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And yes, I take my sport bike offroad, sometimes even on muddy two track "trails" 8)

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:46 pm
by Larry B
Nice bike, but too fast for me :help: I'm just a old geezer with loud pipes :D but would like to ride with you, but I don't do the off road thing anymore except for a dirt road now and then. I've had Honda's, Yamaha's and now HD, also ride a yamaha Rhino also street plated as they are legal here in AZ. My son-in-law races quad's or I should say used to race dirt bikes and now owns a company that races quads, have you heard of Motoworks? He started that company. I'll bet there are lots of good riding there in Wyoming? I've done work in the Rock Springs area, don't really want to go back to that place :help: But north is really nice.
If all goes well I'll be coming thru about the second week in Aug. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:12 pm
by gstanfield
Give me a shout for sure when the time gets closer. I also work out at Indenpendence rock with CMA during the weekend prior to Sturgis (CMA coffee stop kinda thing) you are more than welcome to stop by there if the timing is right, but then again everyone is welcome at a CMA booth :D

oh yeah, don't worry, I ride all roads and all speeds so no worry about keeping up or wanting to follow, I am easy to ride with.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:45 pm
by Dog Fish
Larry B wrote:Nice bike, but too fast for me :help: I'm just a old geezer with loud pipes :D but would like to ride with you, but I don't do the off road thing anymore except for a dirt road now and then. I've had Honda's, Yamaha's and now HD, also ride a yamaha Rhino also street plated as they are legal here in AZ. My son-in-law races quad's or I should say used to race dirt bikes and now owns a company that races quads, have you heard of Motoworks? He started that company. I'll bet there are lots of good riding there in Wyoming? I've done work in the Rock Springs area, don't really want to go back to that place :help: But north is really nice.
If all goes well I'll be coming thru about the second week in Aug. :D
Larry B, is that Can- am / Motoworks

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:33 pm
by Larry B
Larry B, is that Can- am / Motoworks
Yes, that's the one. :D Do you know them?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:34 am
by Dog Fish
Larry B

No, the only one from that gang I have met is John Natalie a few times when he came to Fl and race cross country in our Florida Trail Riders races. I just follow racing now, because I am to old ( 56 ) and beat up. I raced dirt bikes since I was 16 years old and switched to quads about 12 years ago. I know of that gang of Motoworks guys though, I think a couple of the owners are Johnny Leach and Darrell Contreras not real sure. They have a great race team, Frederick, Warnia, Zimmerman, Lawson, Wienen, and Natlie, some real champions there. I know they race in the ITP, ATV MX and the Worcs series. Here in the east the GNCC sponsored by Can-AM is our big race series and the Nationals. Wasn't that Motorworks hauler that burned to the ground not to long ago on the way to a race. :?: :(

Brian :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:20 am
by Larry B
Yes, Johnny is my son in law. And yes my daughter sent me a picture of the trailer burning that day. They lost a couple of bikes in that fire. Had a race the next day that they did make :D They had just put new graphics on the trailer :( But good thing is no one was hurt :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:03 am
by Larry B
Well I was getting ready to start glueing down the sole today, and thought I'd pull some of those fancy strings that I've seen others do to see if there boat is square??? :doh: Well pulled the strings and found out I'm about 1/32" out :help: I was thinking about starting over when I realized that I could blame it on the rub rail thickness :doh: Heck ya, the rub rail is probably a bit thicker on one side than the other, so instead of grinding all my tape and epoxy off the boat and starting over, I'm just blaming the rub rail :D
Here is what it looks like

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am
by cape man
Well pulled the strings and found out I'm about 1/32" out
If you don't fix that I'm not sure I will ever feel safe riding in your boat!!! :help: :help: :help: :help:

That's some fancy backhanded bragging if you ask me!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:11 pm
by TomW
That's some fancy backhanded bragging if you ask me!:lol:


I'll second that remark! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Well done Larry! :wink:

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:33 pm
by ks8
Don't let the Coast Guard find out! :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:12 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:
That's some fancy backhanded bragging if you ask me!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I learned that from you Craig :wink: I read your build thread :D
I'll second that remark! Well done Larry!
Thanks Tom :D
Don't let the Coast Guard find out!
I'm going to put my ID tag on the corner, that will even it out :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:35 pm
by gstanfield
Well, obviously your boat is junk and you need to start over. To save you the expense of hauoling it off to the dump I will go ahead and swing buy and pick it up from you :wink:

I'm only trying to help out you know 8)

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:22 am
by cape man
I learned that from you Craig I read your build thread
Moi?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:20 am
by Larry B
Started glueing my sole last night, and decided I needed some backing for a leaning post should I decide on one. So I routed out the foam for 3/4" backing in the area I'm hoping is the right area :doh: It fits snug and I can glue it to the bottom of the sole at the same time as I glue in the sole.

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This is what I was thinking about for a leaning post. It would be removable if needed? I would use flat bases so I didn't trip on them :help:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:25 am
by gstanfield
Nice, I am really enjoying seeing the progression of people's boats and how the plan changes as they go together. It seems that there are so many choices at the beginning, but by time it is finished it is just how it should be as if there was only one way to build it.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:31 am
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:Nice, I am really enjoying seeing the progression of people's boats and how the plan changes as they go together. It seems that there are so many choices at the beginning, but by time it is finished it is just how it should be as if there was only one way to build it.

George
And it makes it real nice when I can learn from others mistakes, most here are not affraid to admit to a mistake to make it easier for the next builder. I should probably call my boat a Cracker Craig :lol: :lol: :lol: It's half Cracker Larry's and half Capemans :D :D along with a bit of Cottontop and others :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:19 pm
by Cracker Larry
If you're ever planning on a T-top, now would be a good time to get those backing plates in too :wink: Of course, I did that, and put them in the wrong place :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:36 pm
by cape man
It's half Cracker Larry's and half Capemans
Since mine is half Cracker's, that makes your's 3/4 Cracker's. :roll: :roll: :roll:

...not that Jacques had anything to do with any of these boats... 8) 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:39 pm
by Cracker Larry
I sure hope yalls boats last a long time :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:18 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:If you're ever planning on a T-top, now would be a good time to get those backing plates in too :wink: Of course, I did that, and put them in the wrong place :oops:
Probably not a T-top, thinking about just a bimini top, can't go wrong there as it will attach to the gunrail :D I'll say one thing, I've about got your pictures worn out looking at them and double and triple checking everything I do, but no matter what you do, you can't plan for all senarios :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:49 pm
by Larry B
Well it's been a crummy day. Things were going great Friday. My helper (Roscoe) and I were getting alot of work done on the boat. Got the sole completed glued down. Thought we'd celebrate and go play some ball as he made sure I did a good job. Got to playing ball as he loves to do. He went for a high one, up he jumped, did a spin, grabed the ball and came down hard on his right rear leg, I heard POP and he colasped on the ground. I ran to him and he was in terrible pain. His leg snapped completely in half and was just hanging there. It was hard to pick him up without hurting him, but we had to get him to the vet. So here he is all comfortable in his brand new crate. His new home for the next 6 weeks. The vet said it was a clean break and if you can have a good break, it was a good one. If we can keep him still for the next 6 weeks he should heal as good as new. He's a 8 month old puppy so this is going to be a trick. We can take him on leash to relieve himself or for short walks, but CANNOT RUN, if he breaks it before it's healed then it's going to take alot longer and might not heal as well. So my wife and are committed to make sure he heals well. It's been a long night and day but finally able to relax tonight.
I'll still take him to my shop with me while I'm working on my boat so he can keep me straight.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:22 pm
by Dog Fish
Larry, Sorry to hear that, poor puppy, I feel bad for him. Image I have a 12 year old lab, and she has a very bad hip from to much frisbee playing. Hope the pup heals ok. Image

Brian Image

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:49 pm
by cape man
Dang that sucks! He looks comfy in the crate though.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:04 pm
by Cracker Larry
Very sorry for Roscoe :( He's young and will probably heal quickly, Hope so. Dogs are tough.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:33 pm
by Bowmovement
Sorry to hear about Roscoe. May want to get some sedatives from the vet for the hyper moments. Had to do that for my lab when I got her fixed. Vet told me no running and jumping and I laughed. The sedatives worked for the most part.

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:16 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the comments guys :D

Yes I've got meds for him. The vet gave me some pills for him and said this will relax him, but it's the same as being drunk she said. And you dont' know what kind of drunk you will get :help: Maybe a happy drunk, maybe a mean drunk, maybe a singing drunk and so on. I haven't given him any of those yet so don't know how he will react :doh: I'm saving those for when he starts getting really restless and I need for him to calm down. I'm giving him muscle relaxers and pain killers right now, and they mellow him out pretty good. I know one thing, this is a full time job, but I really love him and I'll do it :D :D Just want him to be comfortable. But like Larry said, dogs are tough. I just try to listen to what he wants and go from there. Don't push the issue's.

OK, enough of that, I've got to order another 6 gallons of Epoxy. Lets see, 7.5 came with the kit, ordered another 6, then ordered another 6, now ordering another 6 :help: But I'm hoping to have some left over for another project that I need about 1/2 gal. of epoxy for.

Should have pictures of the sole this week :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:35 am
by Aripeka Angler
Larry, I spent some time last night reading your build thread. Your boat is looking great :) Nice clean work. That is also a great idea routing out the foam for the wood blocking. Continued good luck on your build...

Richard

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:44 am
by Larry B
Richard, thanks for the compliment :D Sometimes you wonder if anyone is watching your build until people post a comment. Then it makes it worthwhile to take more time to post so it might helps others. I know I've saved making alot of mistakes by reading others build threads, and saved alot of time by learning by others mistakes.
Love this forum and hope to meet up with fellow builders someday.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:05 am
by Larry B
Just a little update.

Got the sole glued down, still have to tape it in:

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Here is a look at the Fuel Tank Area, Don't know if you can see the drain in the rear?

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Here is a look at the Sump Area:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:43 am
by cape man
How's that feel? Pretty darn good, huh? I like it a lot. Your deck fits perfect.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:20 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:How's that feel? Pretty darn good, huh? I like it a lot. Your deck fits perfect.
Yes it does Craig. Had a gap on the deck where the panels were too short because of raising the deck. Widest spot was about 1/2" but tapered down to 1/16" on the ends. Thats in a 4' section. I just filled it with woodflour/epoxy. Get it taped in and start on other things without stumbling on the stringers and chase tubes :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:01 am
by Larry B
Well looks like the weather is warming up. Found this just off my back porch yesterday afternoon :help: :help: :help:
I hate these things. Kept an eye on it till it left my yard, hope he don't come back anytime soon :wink:
He is kinda skinny and looking for food. But overall a nice size Diamond Back :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:05 am
by Bowmovement
Larry B wrote:Well looks like the weather is warming up. Found this just off my back porch yesterday afternoon :help: :help: :help:
I hate these things. Kept an eye on it till it left my yard, hope he don't come back anytime soon :wink:
He is kinda skinny and looking for food. But overall a nice size Diamond Back :D

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You can keep those things right there with you. :help:

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:41 am
by Cracker Larry
Beautiful little snake 8) Don't want Roscoe playing with him though. Getting warmer here too, finally :D

As Crocodile Dundee said, that ain't a snake, this is a snake! St. Augustine, FL. Ken Owens sent me these pics and asked me to post them to the forum, I had forgot until I saw the diamondback. Our Eastern variety gets a little bigger 8O

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:50 am
by Larry B
Hey Nice snake, and yep yours is bigger than mine. I'll take the small ones. I hate them all, but I don't kill them unless they are a danger to my family or Roscoe :help: Right now he can't run too fast :D
When I was into horse's and riding alot in Calif. we would run into lots of Rattlers, Don't know the proper name but we called them Red's, they were almost as big around as they were long :doh: Kinda like my favorite joke (it's not very big around, but it sure is short)
I think you guys have lots more snakes back east than we do here??? But we got Scorpions too :D Got the little ones in the house that sting like hell, can't see um till they sting you 8O Then we got the big one's outside that can outrun a big guy like me :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:24 pm
by Dougster
We got those dang scorpions in Texas too. And rattlesnakes, sure. I haven't seen one yet in 8 years on my place. Lotta what I call rat snakes though. Same look and kinda feign rattlesnake behavior. Harmless and maybe they compete with the rattlers so they're ok and I leave 'em alone. Once a year or more though, I forget on the wrong day, open the chicken coop egg hatch, lean over to reach in and 8O one those stinkers is laying there with an egg about half way down. Bad for the digestion. Still, better than rattlers, so I go get some gloves, grab hold or 'em and tote 'em off a piece.

Can't say I like 'em either Dougster

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:31 pm
by Larry B
Ok, got the snakes under control and now back to working on the boat. Got one of the bulkheads in for the fuel tank. I had to make cutouts for the hold down brackets so I'll be able to glass the panels to the inside of the fuel tank well. I'll post more pictures when I have that done. You can also see where I made the gunwale brackets part of the bulkhead. (thanks to CL for breaking his to let me know how to do this)

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Haven't decided what angle I'm going to cut the gunwale brace yet?? :doh:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:32 pm
by cape man
Looking good man. Getting closer. Can't wait to see that fuel tank snugged down in its bed.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:43 am
by Cracker Larry
You can also see where I made the gunwale brackets part of the bulkhead. (thanks to CL for breaking his to let me know how to do this)
Excellent. Mine are already cracking again :( Something else for my to-do list :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:50 am
by Larry B
CL, see in this picture where I wrote myself a note on the sole "Don't Forget The Gunwale"

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:01 pm
by Larry B
Gotta love living in the desert. My neighbor found and killed a Rattler in his yard yesterday. And this is the third time I believe it's the same one I let go :doh: He showed up by my shop door a couple days ago, scared the poop outta me. Read in the paper a guy got bit the other day by one, the bill came to $75,000.00 :help: I decided I didn't want them in my yard and found this one today (first picture) and then while I'm taking his picture the other one come's from around the corner, grabbed my pellet gun again and shot him too. Sorry guys, if i'm in the desert away from my home I won't kill them. When my wife and Dog and me are in danger, sorry there DEAD.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:11 pm
by Dog Fish
I wouldn't think twice about killing them around your house, they would strike your ass with no remorse.
Now you have to build some custom Rattlesnake fishing poles.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:23 pm
by TomW
Get a cat, they'll take care of them before they get that size. I'll never forget our Katie bringing up the first rattler up to the front porch with her first kill, then her second, and 3rd....... An outdoor or semi- outdoor cat are natural enemies of snakes, lizards and the ilk. They just seem to know how to dispose of them. 8O

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:28 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Get a cat, they'll take care of them before they get that size. I'll never forget our Katie bringing up the first rattler up to the front porch with her first kill, then her second, and 3rd....... An outdoor or semi- outdoor cat are natural enemies of snakes, lizards and the ilk. They just seem to know how to dispose of them. 8O

Tom
Roscoe, says no to Cats, My wife says no to Cats, I'm not a cat lover either :D although I did have a cat once :wink: rescued it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:15 pm
by NW Trout
Larry B wrote:grabbed my pellet gun again and shot him too. Sorry guys, if i'm in the desert away from my home I won't kill them. When my wife and Dog and me are in danger, sorry there DEAD.
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Nice pellet gun work Larry. I'm guessing in city limits that's all your could bring to bear. When out fishing rivers and lakes in the high desert of WA or OR, buddies will pack a Tarus Judge with shot loads.

The important question - did you eat them? I've had rattlesnake before that was drop dead awesome. Nothing like a little free-range foraging in the backyard with meat for the grill.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:44 pm
by Larry B
Yea I can do ok with my pellet gun. I figured my 44 magnum was a bit overkill for them. Nope didn't eat them, I heard Chicken taste like Rattlesnake :wink: And I love chicken so probably would like it, but I'd rather feed the hawks and eagles :D I just don't like snakes.

On a boat builder note, I got my hatchs ordered today, now save some more and buy my wireing and connectors. Still need my brass tube drains also. Then on to the console gadgets :D already have my rod holders and cleats.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:06 pm
by Dog Fish
I got my hatchs ordered today
What make did you order Larry.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:23 pm
by Larry B
I went with the Tempress Bright White from Great Lakes Skipper. 12 hatchs total.
I believe they are the same ones that CL used on his OD18

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:45 pm
by Dog Fish
Tempress, that sounds good. 12 hatches, they sure add up quick don't they.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:53 pm
by Larry B
Dog Fish wrote:Tempress, that sounds good. 12 hatches, they sure add up quick don't they.
Yea, ate the crap out of a 700 dollar bill :help: :help: :help: but great lakes had some pretty good prices. Biggest problem is shipping to AZ, but still a good price.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:02 am
by cape man
Yea, ate the crap out of a 700 dollar bill
But your done.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:14 pm
by Larry B
OK, had to get some color on this thing, even if it's only primer. I'm going to sand the bottom below the style line and repaint it at the same time I put the finish coat on the boat.
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And the inside of the anchor locker:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:31 pm
by Dog Fish
Cool, glad to see pics of the hole boat, we been looking at a lot of snakes lately. :) looking good Larry. 8)

Brian

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:22 pm
by hagar
Man, that spray rail really adds some character to the lines! I have been trying to work out mine but will definitely copy yours now! Great look.

Is that primer in your anchor locker also or is it epoxy pigment? that looks great too.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:49 pm
by Larry B
hagar wrote:Man, that spray rail really adds some character to the lines! I have been trying to work out mine but will definitely copy yours now! Great look.

Is that primer in your anchor locker also or is it epoxy pigment? that looks great too.
Thanks for the compliment on the spray rail. A lot of work but worth it if my wife stays dry :wink:
The anchor locker is epoxy with pigment. I used blue and white to give it a hint of blue. The blue alone is VERY dark.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:50 pm
by Larry B
hey guys, I'm getting ready to start on my bait well. I think I've got it pretty much figured out. I'm going with the blue foam from the big box store, Putting in 1 1/4" overflow and drain. What I'm not sure of is the input :doh: hoping someone can help lead me in the right direction as what to do for it? Also suppliers of the input?? I've got the pump and pickup figured out also. I'm going to coping Craigs idea on the rounded corners.
So basically all I need is how to do the input line :doh:
any help is appreciated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:30 pm
by Boater45
Where are you installing your pickup?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:10 pm
by Larry B
My pickup will be a thru hull like this:
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It will be in the sump area and the live well will be right next to it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:02 pm
by Cracker Larry
I used about the same water pick up as that, size 3/4". A marelon seacock screws down directly onto the bronze fitting. Cut off any excess thread length, so the seacock is almost flush to the retaining nut when tightened. A Rule 500 pump screws directly into the top of the seacock. Again, cut off any extra thread length on the pump base. Extra threads just add leverage for breakage. From the pump I adapt from 3/4 pipe to 3/4 hose.

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The hose goes to a spray bar fitting with a flow control valve. Looks kind of cheesy, but works great. It's kept over 100 bait fish for 3 days :D Got it from Bass Pro.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:59 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Larry, I had seen those pictures but needed the explanation you just gave. I think I'll do it exactly like you did. Btw, the pickup I got off your pictures also :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:17 pm
by Larry B
OK, been pondering and pondering, I'm getting close to putting in my brass drains. My plan is to drill them 1/4" oversize and fill and redrill correct size. I've got most figured out but have two in the front lockers that I need to drill flush or within 1/8" of the sole. How are you guys drilling these flush? With the drill I have to drill it straight will be almost 1/2" off the sole :doh: So any help would be appreciated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:12 pm
by TomW
Larry you can pick up a drill extension for 5- 10 bucks at the bb stores that will let you drill yor at the proper angle. .

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:20 pm
by Cracker Larry
I drill mine from the outside in :doh: Then you don't have a drill clearance problem and can keep the bit square with the hull. First drill a 1/8 pilot hole in the center of where you want it, from the inside. Then use the hole saw from the outside.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:26 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I drill mine from the outside in :doh: Then you don't have a drill clearance problem and can keep the bit square with the hull. First drill a 1/8 pilot hole in the center of where you want it, from the inside. Then use the hole saw from the outside.
Larry, got that part figured out, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but those arent the problem :doh: It's in the 2 front lockers where the sole is on both sides :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:41 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Larry you can pick up a drill extension for 5- 10 bucks at the bb stores that will let you drill yor at the proper angle. .

Tom
Tom is this a flexible extension?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:42 am
by TomW
Some are flexible some are solid. Either way a 5-6" extension should give you enough leeway to get a good angle.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:49 am
by cape man
Larry,

I used 1" pvc couplings to make my drains for the lockers. Drilled the hole, then used a dremmel to get it flush with the sole and oversize for the coupling. Painted the opening with epoxy, inserted the pvc, then filled the gap with epoxy mixed with wood flour. If I did it again I woiuld have used the dremmel to make a slight recess in the sole and put the bottom of the coupling flush. As they are now there is always the water remaining in the lockers that can't make it over the lip of the coupling . Bring the recess out far enough beyond the fitting to insert a plug. You can do the same thing with a brass tube, but will need to build up a lot of support around it - either with epoxy or wood - to effectively flair both ends (if you feel the inside one needs to be flaired) and protect it from being dented.

Here's a pic of my scupper, but I did the same thing with the locker drains. Just couldn't find the pic in my gallery...

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:17 am
by Larry B
Thanks Craig, Thats kinda what I had in mind except didn't think about the dremel :D I'm think to use Tom's idea of an extension and drill halfway from each direction, then using the dremel I can round off the center that will be lower. I'll only have a small place in the center that is low and can be filled when inserting the brass. They will be 1/8" off the sole, but I can deal with that, a towel or shop vac will clean that out in a minute :D I haven't glued my console down yet, so I'll predrill it before glassing it down. I should have done that with the forward bulkhead and I wouldn't have this problem :doh: The one in the stern is easy because I have the sump area for the drill :D And all others are at a angle or can be drilled from the outside in as CL mentioned.
cape man wrote:Larry,

I used 1" pvc couplings to make my drains for the lockers. Drilled the hole, then used a dremmel to get it flush with the sole and oversize for the coupling. Painted the opening with epoxy, inserted the pvc, then filled the gap with epoxy mixed with wood flour. If I did it again I woiuld have used the dremmel to make a slight recess in the sole and put the bottom of the coupling flush. As they are now there is always the water remaining in the lockers that can't make it over the lip of the coupling . Bring the recess out far enough beyond the fitting to insert a plug. You can do the same thing with a brass tube, but will need to build up a lot of support around it - either with epoxy or wood - to effectively flair both ends (if you feel the inside one needs to be flaired) and protect it from being dented.

Here's a pic of my scupper, but I did the same thing with the locker drains. Just couldn't find the pic in my gallery...

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:04 pm
by Larry B
Man thats scary stuff drilling BIG holes in your boat :help:

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But after drilling a few holes the trucking company called and I went and picked up my new trailer :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:22 pm
by Cracker Larry
Man thats scary stuff drilling BIG holes in your boat
Only the first couple :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:17 am
by Dog Fish
Larry, your trailer looks very nice. Image

Brian :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:31 pm
by gstanfield
Larry, you need to hurry up and finish that thing so I can come down and go fishing. I'm always looking for an excuse to take a bike ride. :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:43 pm
by Larry B
Only the first couple
Yep, thats the truth. After a couple just pick the drill up and go for it :D
Larry, your trailer looks very nice.
Thanks, I think I'll replace the bunks though :doh:
Larry, you need to hurry up and finish that thing so I can come down and go fishing. I'm always looking for an excuse to take a bike ride.

George
George, I only started this in Oct. Was hoping to launch this summer but I doubt it :( I'll be lucky if it's finished by Oct :wink: ) But I'm not setting any deadlines. It's going to take what it takes, besides still have to build the trailer, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, Do Honey Do's, :D :wink: :D :wink: But she is worth it :wink:
Hey, jump on your bike and come on down anyway. We'll take the FL14 out and also do some desert riding :D :D Should still have some sanding to do if we get bored :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:04 pm
by gstanfield
Sounds good, maybe I'll shoot down that way a few weeks prior to you heading up this way, then we can compare FL14's :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:15 pm
by Larry B
George, Yea if all goes as planned I'm leaving out of here about Aug. 4th going your direction. Going to do it on mostly back roads so will probably take me two to three days to get to you :lol: Usually spend a night in Casper, and party at the Country Western Bar (don't remember the name) the cab driver just takes me there and back :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:41 pm
by gstanfield
I llive out North of Glenrock, about 20 miles east of Casper so I can meet you in town no problem. If your schedule allows for an extra half day or so we can drift fish the Platte river for however long you want and pull some nice trout out :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:32 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:I llive out North of Glenrock, about 20 miles east of Casper so I can meet you in town no problem. If your schedule allows for an extra half day or so we can drift fish the Platte river for however long you want and pull some nice trout out :D

George
For sure I'll stay a extra day and fish :D When it's getting close we'll figure out the best day for you and I can plan it for then. Alot nicer staying in Casper than Sturgis during the rally. I go mostly for the ride up and back and inbetween :D Rally is a Zoo

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:36 pm
by gstanfield
Certainly. If you want to stay in a smaller town you can try and get a room in Glenrock. Glenrock has one 4 way stop and a 4 room motel on the corner. There are two bars within 100yds of the "motel" so everything is walking distance and the food is great at any of our 4 restraunts in town :D Just let me know when things get closer and I can help you out with finding rooms and such, depending on my schedule at the time we may even have our guest room open if you needed a place to crash for the night.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:10 pm
by Larry B
Hey, that little 4 room hotel sounds great. Just might be the ticket. Just did a search on google earth and found a Mabuhay Motel, gotta be filipinos who own that one :D Looks like a neat little town. Probably stay there instead of Casper :D Don't have to have a bar, just a store to have a couple cold ones in my room works for me too :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:18 pm
by gstanfield
The name of the motel is "4 rooms on the corner" I'll get the phone number and you can call and make a reservation if you want.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:18 pm
by Larry B
OK, here is the plan for the batteries :wink: I think it's going to work out fine. I've got plenty of room to do the connections, and with leaving some cable slack I can remove the battery without disconnecting it for service. Might even be able to service them in place but it might be too tight :doh:
Anyway it's not carved in stone yet, so if anyone has any ideas or suggestions as why this won't work?? or how to make it better. The hold downs will be similar to CL's and easy to get to.
Here are the pics:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:36 pm
by gstanfield
Classic Cafe, Pizza, and 4 rooms on the corner motel - (307) 436-2244

If you want to up the budget a bit the glenrock hotel is the oldest operating motel in WY and very nice with the best formal dining in central wyoming (tad pricey, but good) For good cheap stay and great American food the Classic cafe,Pizza and 4 room motel is wonderful as well :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:49 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:Classic Cafe, Pizza, and 4 rooms on the corner motel - (307) 436-2244

If you want to up the budget a bit the glenrock hotel is the oldest operating motel in WY and very nice with the best formal dining in central wyoming (tad pricey, but good) For good cheap stay and great American food the Classic cafe,Pizza and 4 room motel is wonderful as well :D

George
With building this boat, I think the budget works for me just fine :D :D Thanks for the info

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:45 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:... anyone has any ideas or suggestions as why this won't work??
I can't think of any reason it won't work. But, I will add some observations/comments just to help you decide to keep it or change it based on my experience.
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I have two batteries below deck and below the waterline on my 18'CC production boat. I always worried that if the boat started sinking the batteries (electrical system) would short out and the motors wouldn't crank if they were flooded. Well... I sank the boat (kind of) and the batteries were under water and continued to work just fine. Got the hole plugged, the motor cranked and all is back to normal. Obviously I don't know anything about DC power. :) This is just an experience to pass along concerning batteries above waterline and below.

I'm guessing 80 percent of my wiring (and the steering cable) is under the console. The negative bus, the positive bus, the main switch panel, the auxiliary switch panel, the wiring for the fish finder, GPS, compass, radio, auxiliary outlet, etc... So, it gets full and tight very quick. Plus I have the flares and the throwable and my emergency waterproof box,etc... under there. So, go ahead and pile in all the stuff you will have under there and see how it fits. But, you may have plans for this stuff in other places.

If you keep the batteries in there, I probably (if it was my boat :wink: ) move the two hatches that are on the sides up several inches. Once the batteries are in, you will want to get to the space above them way more than wanting to pull the batteries out. Even with the hatch in the front above the batteries. That's just me and MY experience. The extra cable on the batteries sounds like an excellent idea to me.

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Finally, I would flip the front hatch. I have a similar hatch and it just folds down on the cooler so I don't have to hold it up or prop it up.

Just some thoughts. Your boat. Make it work right for YOU. It's looking great.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:22 am
by Larry B
sitandfish, Thanks for the comment and insight. I thought about raising the side hatchs, but those batteries are HEAVY. As for the front hatch it's not screwed in so I can move it anyway I want. I thought about putting it the way you are talking about, but then thought it would be more out of the way if I tied it up :doh: If it's down, it will be at a angle and I'll probably be kneeling right where it's at, but when I get the top on the front compartment done I'll check it out to see how it is.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:01 pm
by Larry B
I need some help :doh: I received my Rule 2000 bilge pump today and there was a part in the box that I can't figure out :doh: Attached is a picture of the part, any help would be appreciated.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:11 pm
by gstanfield
Packaging material? :wink:

George :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:14 pm
by sitandfish

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:34 pm
by Larry B
sitandfish wrote:Super Switch Adapter"
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=70519F
Well now I know what it is :doh: and I figure I don't need it as I've got a separate float switch. It somehow got into the rule pump box :doh: :doh:
Thanks sitandfish, I can sleep well tonight :D
Also you know it's not a bad thing to have handy, never know when you might need a super switch adapter for your super switch :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:41 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:
sitandfish wrote:Super Switch Adapter"
http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=70519F
Well now I know what it is :doh: and I figure I don't need it as I've got a separate float switch. It somehow got into the rule pump box :doh: :doh:
Thanks sitandfish, I can sleep well tonight :D
Also you know it's not a bad thing to have handy, never know when you might need a super switch adapter for your super switch :lol:
All I can do is give you answers. I'm probably like you... I don't have any use for one and can't imagine why they sent you one and still don't quite know what the thing really does but, it sure looks like a Super Switch Adapter to me. :doh:

Maybe you could sell it on eBay. :roll: 2 Dollars is 2 dollars!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:21 pm
by Cracker Larry
:lol: I've got a lot of little extra odds and ends like that.

I agree with Mark, I'd flip that front hatch. Ya don't want to hold it open with your head every time you need to do something in there, and tying it off is a pain in the @ass. Use gravity to your advantage. Save the final installation of it until after all your console wiring and controls are finished.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:54 am
by cape man
I agree with Mark, I'd flip that front hatch. Ya don't want to hold it open with your head every time you need to do something in there, and tying it off is a pain in the @ass. Use gravity to your advantage. Save the final installation of it until after all your console wiring and controls are finished.
This is exactly what I did with mine. All good advice.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:01 am
by Larry B
cape man wrote:
I agree with Mark, I'd flip that front hatch. Ya don't want to hold it open with your head every time you need to do something in there, and tying it off is a pain in the @ass. Use gravity to your advantage. Save the final installation of it until after all your console wiring and controls are finished.
This is exactly what I did with mine. All good advice.
I agree and flipped it will be :D Now if I can only decide where to install the dang Super Switch Adapter :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:05 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:
cape man wrote:
I agree with Mark, I'd flip that front hatch. Ya don't want to hold it open with your head every time you need to do something in there, and tying it off is a pain in the @ass. Use gravity to your advantage. Save the final installation of it until after all your console wiring and controls are finished.
This is exactly what I did with mine. All good advice.
I agree and flipped it will be :D Now if I can only decide where to install the dang Super Switch Adapter :doh:
Keep bringing it up and I am sure people will make a suggestion. :lol:

But you probably won't like it. :help: Get back to building. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:58 pm
by Larry B
I'm really getting tired of these rattlesnakes. Got within striking distance today and scared the shit outta me. Got my pellet gun and blew his frickin head off. He was a older one, had lost alot of his rattles, but he's a dead one now. When they threathen my family there dead, and I'm part of the family :D I could build my boat if I didn't have snakes crawling around :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:07 pm
by wegcagle
Good news is that you have plenty of snack skin for a good pair of boots, belts, gun holster, hell probably even a hat.

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:49 pm
by Larry B
Found out that Rattler I shot had bit my helper earlier. This is what he looks like today, the swelling is going down and he's feeling better today. He wants to go find that snake :doh: :doh: Heck we haven't even got to the warm weather yet :help: Oh Well One less snake,
Roscoe has had a bad couple months with the broken leg and now the snake bite, but he's a tough dog. They have Rattlesnake shots that they give here and I'm going to get him them when he gets better. It's like a vaccine and if he gets bit he won't have such a bad reaction to the venom. About 40 bucks for the first two shots and then 25 bucks a year after that.
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This is a 4' fence
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:25 pm
by hagar
No way I could live there! I know the moccasins that I am used to in the swamps are pretty aggressive, but they stay in thje swamp. I couldn't live and function if I had to look for snakes around every corner of the yard!

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:32 pm
by cape man
Glad Roscoe's doing better. It amazes me how dogs can survive a face bite like that! Lost a beagle last November to a snake, and the neighbor's Chihuaha died after being bit in our swamp in February.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:59 pm
by wegcagle
That's one tough dog 8) I have always been impressed with dogs' ability to take a snake bite. If I got popped on the nose I'd probably be crying in some ICU. Glad he's doing better.

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:33 am
by Joe H
Glad to hear the dogs doing okay, and I'm freaking out about spiders in my the garage!

Joe

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:10 am
by Larry B
Joe H wrote:Glad to hear the dogs doing okay, and I'm freaking out about spiders in my the garage!

Joe
Well I haven't had (or found) any snakes in my shop yet :help: But because I leave the doors open sometimes to get the breeze I always look before I pick anything up :help: They can be there. Neighbor had one in his shop last year. Spiders are annoying, some snakes are deadly :help:

Well I've got to get back to boat building.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:32 pm
by Cracker Larry
Hey Larry B. A couple of weeks ago you asked me why I put foam on the bottom of my bait tank over the sole, and I told you I had a reason at the time, but couldn't think of it :doh: Your question and the answer came back to me in Boca Grande, yeah I'm slow :lol: It was to raise the height of the bottom of the well, so that it could drain completely even with people in the back of the boat. The sole level cockpit drains are a little below water with someone in the stern. I put in 2 layers of foam, then 1/4 ply over it. I can drain the bait tank, no matter the boat loading.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:35 pm
by Larry B
CL, thanks for taking the time to remember this and post the info. I'm still building the bait well and it makes perfect sense on raising it so it will drain. Think i might do the same thing now that you explain it. Makes perfect sense :D
I was also trying to use a different inlet too. I ordered this one but my bait tank wall is too thick :doh: so now I have to find something else or use what you did. Mine is 1 1/2" thick, 1/4" ply, 3/4" foam, 1/2" ply. If you have any other ideas let me know.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:52 pm
by Larry B
Also Larry, I put in backing blocks so my thru hulls will have wood and epoxy support around them. I think I'll raise the bottom some but keep it low enough so my brass thru hulls will still have the support.
Here is a picture as to what I'm talking about:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:25 am
by cape man
Cracker Larry and I tend to agree on lots of things (scares the crap outa me sometimes :lol: ), but I'm not convinced baitwells that use a flow through pump need to be insulated. If your pump is big enough to get good turn over in the well, the water will be the same temp as where the boat it is sitting. If you are filling with a bucket and using an aerator, the insulation will absolutely help. CL also built his to double as a cooler so the insulation will help with keeping ice, but even there I don't know you really need it. I use the forward starboard hatch on my boat as a fish box/cooler, and the ice lasted for almost two days in Boca. It was a lot of cold water with ice in it by the end, but it kept the fish fine and a few drinks. When I was building my baitwell I opted for keeping the volume versus adding the foam. Neither option is "right", just a different way of thinking through it.

With that said, your inlet doesn't need to be anything fancy at all. I have almost the same asa this
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:29 am
by Larry B
Thanks for the info Criag. I think the foam is a good idea here in AZ. but maybe not? I know it gets hot in FL also. Summer temps on the lake can be in the 100's with no humidity. Anyway I've already got the foam in place so I'll keep it. I was also going to foam the front locker in front of the console. Use for a cooler also. Need lots of beer in this heat and don't want it to get warm.
I think I'll just do as you say and put a thru hull into the baitwell maybe same as the Rule thru hull I'm using for the bilge pump.
This is all new to me so I really appreciate all the help.
Thanks,

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:20 pm
by hagar
cape man wrote:Cracker Larry and I tend to agree on lots of things (scares the crap outa me sometimes ), but I'm not convinced baitwells that use a flow through pump need to be insulated. If your pump is big enough to get good turn over in the well, the water will be the same temp as where the boat it is sitting. If you are filling with a bucket and using an aerator, the insulation will absolutely help.
For my .02, gotta' go with the Cracker on this one. While Capeman is correct if the pump is running, no issue. When it comes to letting bait stay in the livewell with the recirculator on, the insulation may be the difference between live bait and dead bait. On several occasions when I have used live bait, I have caught or bought it the night before fishing. Didn't want to wait for the baitshop to open at 0530 and deal with the line that already formed at God knows what time those guys got there. No problem in an insulated livewell with a recirculating option (on a timer), put them in the livewell the night before and they are ready to go in the am. Otherwise would have to keep them in some kind of insulated cooler with a bait system, etc. Much easier to have them already in the boat. Plus, like others mentioned, great to have insulation when the livewell is adapted to a cooler!

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:10 am
by Cracker Larry
Even with the pump running, in the summer our creek water will get over 90 degrees and it's hard to keep bait alive. We put a bag of ice in the bait well which helps a lot. A bag of ice will last almost all day in the insulated well, but it would use 4 times as much ice if non-insulated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:45 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:...I think I'll just do as you say and put a thru hull into the baitwell maybe same as the Rule thru hull I'm using for the bilge pump.

This is all new to me so I really appreciate all the help.
Thanks,
Larry, the picture you posted was taken a little too close to the baitwell for me to get a clear picture in my head of the layout. Is the Rule pump going to be inside the baitwell? I promise I have looked at every picture I can find and I can't quite tell where that picture was taken. Sorry. I only have a concern if the pump is "inside" the baitwell.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:59 am
by Larry B
It will go in the bilge area. Pretty much the same as CL's,
Bait well is in the Port Locker
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:23 pm
by sitandfish
Thanks Larry. That's what I thought. I almost posted that picture of Larry's (the other Larry :) ) boat too. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:08 pm
by Larry B
Well getting back to work on my OD. I've got the following mocked up, nothing is pernamant at the moment. Before I made anything pernamant I wanted to run it by you guys to make sure I'm not missing something :doh: You can see in the third picture if you look close, of the outline I have drawn for the cut out. Up front there will be speakers and then the cutout will be left open for what ever might need a temp place. There will be a drain hole so any water will drain to the deck. Also the fuel fill and vent will go up on the Port side. I'm hoping it will be far enough forward to not be seen, but will need access for the clamps :doh: Maybe be enought play to lift the fill/vent out far enough for the clamps :doh:
Anyway would appreciate any feedback, good or bad :wink:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:34 am
by cape man
Looks good and like the storage on the sides.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:41 am
by Larry B
Thanks Craig, Think I'll go ahead with it as is :D Took a few weeks off and now need to get back on it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:06 am
by gstanfield
Looking good. You're going to be so spoiled that you probably won't go fishing in my shabby FL14 when you come out in august :wink:

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:32 pm
by hagar
That looks great, gives room for storage and would have no issue mounting a trolling motor up there if that is in your plans. Looks like my vision for my od18, although I am still a long way off 'til that point. One question, where do you plan on storing your anchor? Is there an opportunity to plan for a hawspipe on the front deck with the most forward section serving as a chain locker? I am toying with the idea of storing the anchor on deck up front, maybe even one of those anchor roller/storage fittings. I use a relatively large anchor that is special made for oyster reefs with lots of chain, it sticks every time without fail, but is a pita to handle quietly over the rail. Beautiful build, nice layout.

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:21 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:Looking good. You're going to be so spoiled that you probably won't go fishing in my shabby FL14 when you come out in august :wink:

George
Nope, really love my FL14. Was out in it all day today. Really had a load in her. My fat ass, wife's skinny ???, easy up, cot, ice chests, Dog and she did great. Didn't catch any fish, sleep most of the day and relax and watch wife and dog swim.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:25 pm
by Larry B
hagar wrote:That looks great, gives room for storage and would have no issue mounting a trolling motor up there if that is in your plans. Looks like my vision for my od18, although I am still a long way off 'til that point. One question, where do you plan on storing your anchor? Is there an opportunity to plan for a hawspipe on the front deck with the most forward section serving as a chain locker? I am toying with the idea of storing the anchor on deck up front, maybe even one of those anchor roller/storage fittings. I use a relatively large anchor that is special made for oyster reefs with lots of chain, it sticks every time without fail, but is a pita to handle quietly over the rail. Beautiful build, nice layout.

Hagar
Hagar, thanks for the complement. Yes I have a anchor locker. It's the one right below the Bow locker. It's glass completly in and very stout for the anchors to bounce around. I'm trying to figure out a way to put a bow anchor roller (I have one) on her that will look nice, don't have it figured out yet but hopefully in the near future.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:29 pm
by gstanfield
Nice FL, I don't think I've seen finished pictures of it before. I'm getting real close to splashing mine (new pictures in my build thread) and am at the point of buying thigns to get it rigged up so feel free to jump in there with your opinions, especially on the rod holder thread as I see you use them. Your OD is looking great and when it is finished I'm gonna come down and bum a fishing trip in it (providing I can actually put you on some fish when you come up) 8)

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:47 pm
by Larry B
George, your welcome anytime. Hope I can put you on some fish if you come by. Lots of places we can go to fish and camp. (not at the rocky place my FL is at) No deadline on the OD, but wife told me to finish her up. So starting next week, I've got her credit card and permission to use it :D Heck I order so much stuff, I know the UPS guy personally and he always ask how my boat is coming along. Takes time to stop and check it out :D Probably get my trailer supplies this month also. Maybe have her done by winter and you can get out of that cold place and come to a warm place for vacation. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 am
by gstanfield
That would be awsome! The only problem is I can't ride my bike in the winter and my truck gets horrible milage. Maybe by winter I'll have my new car and then milage will no longer be a concern :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:44 am
by Larry B
Thought I'd ask my question while everyone is talking about anchors??

I'm getting to the point also to start buying anchors for my OD. My question is for CL and Craig, I'd like to carry two anchors and would like your suggestions on which ones to carry? From reading this thread and others I see CL uses a Bruce style and Danforth, I beleive that would be good for me too as I'll be in Rock and Sand at different times. So What weight anchors should I use for the OD. I've read the link that was posted in George's thread, but I can't make heads nor tails out of it. After reading this thread I do know I have the wrong anchors for my FL14 :doh: I'll be changing them also. And I sure do appreciate the info that you experiecned guys supply on here :)
Also on Rope? I want to be prepared, with two anchors should I carrry 300' of rope for each?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:07 am
by steve292
I'd get 2 5 or 7.5 kg ploughs, with 300ft of rope + adequate chain for each.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:19 am
by Cracker Larry
Larry, my primary anchor is an 11 lb, Claw, with about 15' of 1/4 chain and 300' of 3/4 nylon 3 strand. I wouldn't have bought line this large, I would have got 5/8 for this anchor, but Aripeka Richard gave me a spool of 3/4 :D
This anchor has never failed to hold, in any conditions. And you sure can't break it 8O

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My second anchor is a 10 lb. Danforth, 8' of 1/4 chain and 200' of 1/2 line.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:53 pm
by cape man
I carry two Danforth style anchors, one that's 7.5 lbs with no chain on 150' of 1/2" rope, and the other is 10 lbs with 6' of 1/4" chain on 200' of 1/2" rope. I use the heavier anchor with chain when anchoring where a strong current exists, and the lighter anchor for calm water or running a line up the beach.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:14 pm
by TomW
Larry I put a note on anchor rodes up in the other anchor discussion and where to get them at a good price on the web.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:47 pm
by Larry B
Thanks guys, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. :D :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:09 pm
by Cracker Larry
Larry I put a note on anchor rodes up in the other anchor discussion and where to get them at a good price on the web.

Tom
Good, lucky for me to have friends like Richard 8) You can easily spend more on line than you will on a good anchor.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:30 pm
by Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:46 pm
by Cracker Larry
What do ya'll think of the following anchors?
What I already told ya what I think :doh:
Also, stick with the name brands. Look alike Danforths sold at walmart aren't danforths :wink:
Stick to the name brands, not the copies.
Danforth Style Boat Anchor Boats 17'-24' Super Hooker
A "Danforth Style" is not a Danforth. A super hooker might be good for a bachelor party 8O but stick with name brands in anchors. There are only a few, and Super Hooker isn't one of them.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:50 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote: A super hooker might be good for a bachelor party, but stick with name brands in anchors. There are only a few, and Super Hooker isn't one of them.
LOL, :D :lol: , everytime I search I only come up with copy's???? :doh: They all say Danforth style?
Any good links on the good anchors?? And that is why I ask, because I didn't know :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:56 pm
by Cracker Larry

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:05 am
by Cracker Larry
and this one is the same, IMO, as the "Danforth Style" I've never heard of a North Star Marine, "Bruce Type" anchor. Lot's I've never heard of, but it's not a top brand of anchor. Bruce, Danforth, Fortress, Lewmar, Delta, CQR are name brands. You can trust them.
The Claw/Bruce style anchor is one of the most popular anchors in the world due to the ease with which it sets and its impeccable holding power.

We manufacture all of our anchors from highly waxed molds resulting in a superior finish. Quite simply, our boat anchors look better than any other similar style anchor. Even better, our anchors cost up to 70% less than others.

This 11 lbs Claw/Bruce style boat anchor is designed for boats up to 22' in length.

Regular In-Store Pricing: $200.00+
Sort of like the Toyota commercials. Why buy a Camry like car, when you can buy a Camry? Spend the extra 10 bucks, buy the name brand, that's my story and I'm stickin to it :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:09 am
by Larry B
Larry, I just went to the Danforth website. It says there anchors are made by Tie Down Engineering . :doh: That is the same company that makes the Super Hooker :lol: http://www.tiedown.com/aanchors.html So just wondering how much difference there is? I guess like most companys they have a cheap line and a quality line??? Just thought I'd post that bit of info. It does look like the Danforth is the better anchor though.
What about the bruce anchor, do they have a outlet also??

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:13 am
by hagar
Another brand name that many feel superior, especially if lighter weight is desired.

http://www.fortressanchors.com/

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:49 am
by Cracker Larry
Another brand name that many feel superior, especially if lighter weight is desired.

http://www.fortressanchors.com/
Quote from Richard. Very accurate.


The danforth anchor will do a great job for you. The aluminum anchors are nice, but I think they are a waste of money. I bent an expensive aluminum Fortress about the second time I used it. The cheaper galvanized models work fine. It is actually more important to have plenty of chain, it is what gets the anchor to set faster and keeps it set.
The Fortress anchors are aluminum, yep they are light, not necessarily a good thing in an anchor. They will work just fine in sand, in mild conditions. They will bend like a pretzel in rougher water and/or hard bottoms. I saw Richards anchor in question :lol: Aluminum doesn't compare to tempered steel for strength.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:52 am
by Cracker Larry
Larry, I just went to the Danforth website. It says there anchors are made by Tie Down Engineering . :doh: That is the same company that makes the Super Hooker
I can't keep up with who owns what anymore :doh: But you can buy a 12 lb class Shimano spinning reel at Walmart for 24.95, and you can buy a Shimano 12 lb spinning reel at Bass Pro for $795. Which do you think is the best reel?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:54 am
by TomW
Both Larry's, Bruce Anchor Group no longer makes the Bruce anchor. The best substitute I have found is the Lewmar Claw http://www.boatersland.com/lewclaw.html

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:58 am
by Cracker Larry
Both Larry's, Bruce Anchor Group no longer makes the Bruce anchor.The best substitute I have found is the Lewmar Claw http://www.boatersland.com/lewclaw.html
No shit? That's why I recommended the Lewmar claw to George, Tom. I gave him the same link at 0800 this morning :doh: :wink: It's a damn good anchor. Everything Lewmar makes is good stuff.
quote me

Lewmar makes a great claw anchor, from 1 kilo and up. The 2 kilo (4.4 lb) with 6' of chain will hold your little boat in about any condition possible. In my GF16 I carried a 4.4 claw and an 8 lb. Danforth.

Here's one for $20. Can't beat that 8)

http://www.boatersland.com/lewclaw.html
Sometimes I feel these conversations just go in circles :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:00 am
by hagar
Missed the comment on aluminum anchors. Agreed, I wouldn't use one for serious situations, but as one of two that were kept, they are nice handling in non-critical situations. There should always be a beast of a storm anchor with lots of chain on board no matter what.

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:06 am
by Cracker Larry
If an anchor can't handle a serious situation, it ain't going on my boat. That aluminum Fortress is expensive 8O For that much money you can buy a real anchor, won't bend it and have change left over :wink:

I've used them all, and I think I'm done discussing anchors. The speculators can take it from here.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:11 am
by TomW
Sometimes I feel these conversations just go in circles
I think your right Larry especially when we have two posts going on the same subject.

LarryB here is the site for true standard Danforth's http://www.boatersland.com/danstd.html CL may have posted it up in Georges post.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:39 am
by Larry B
Thanks again guys. Didn't mean to stir the pot :D Sometimes I get too anal about these things. I relize that it can be frustrating to those who have the experience to keep answering these questions and then give an answer that get's another question. I'm very guilty of that :( But when you don't have the knoledge of something then you ask the question? I learn alot here and it is a boat building forum. Some of us could still build a boat without this forum but it would make it a very difficult process. Back to anchors, If I was only planning on going to a small lake I might not care about the quality of a anchor. But like CL said, whats the use of having a anchor that won't hold up to all conditions you might get into. Wasn't disputing what CL said about quality anchors, but sometimes there are alternates and sometimes not.
I've got it from here, so no more question's on anchors from me. I have enough info to make my own desision from here. Thanks to all who have helped in this desision, and I apoligize if it has gone in circles. Too early for a beer so I'm going to go drink some coffee to see if I can get my blood pressure up. Then back to the shop to work on my boat so I can come up with more questions for ya'll :D :wink:
btw, I should have some pictures to post later today :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:19 am
by Cracker Larry
Keep the questions coming Larry, not a problem 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:49 am
by Larry B
Ok thought I'd post some pictures this morning.
This is the Sump Area
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Another of the sump area. It may or maynot have the 90 degree on it???

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Rear locker with the conduits, and my first attemp with the brass drain tube.

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Anchor Locker

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A picture showing where I had to notch out to mount the fuel tank. I will get fairing and blue epoxy so it won't be noticeable.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:23 pm
by Joe H
Sorry, I'm just catching up with this whole anchor thing, laughing my ass off, there's only 1 thing I have to comment about,

"Sort of like the Toyota commercials. Why buy a Camry like car, when you can buy a Camry? Spend the extra 10 bucks, buy the name brand, that's my story and I'm stickin to it"

The analogy just doesn't work for me! :lol: :lol:

Joe H

I have 1 anchor, it's a Danforth. Okay I do have a very old navy too, but I'm too weak for that anymore.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:31 pm
by Cracker Larry
The analogy just doesn't work for me! :lol: :lol:
Well spoken Joe :lol: :lol: For a man whose paychecks are signed by Ford :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:49 pm
by TomW
Cracker Larry wrote:
The analogy just doesn't work for me! :lol: :lol:
Well spoken Joe :lol: :lol: For a man whose paychecks are signed by Ford :lol:
Especially with the Toyata recalls on the recalls! :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:09 am
by Larry B
I want to run another name by you guys and get your opinion. Heck it's harder to find a name for a boat than your kids :wink:
Anyway someone has come up with this suggestion: I really like it :D

Floatin' Dreams

I like it alot better than the other name I was going to use.
Let me know what ya think????

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 am
by cape man
Works for me. If you like it I wouldn't care at all what anyone else said. Your boat, your name.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:59 pm
by steve292
I'll let you into a secret..I was going to call mine after one of my girls, but they have decided that it's going to be called "big snorty hippo" after the noise I make when sleeping. :oops: It's kind of grown on me, I just haven't had the balls to get the vinyl cut yet.
Steve

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:05 pm
by gstanfield
I like the name. It's your boat though so whatever works for you works for me :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:10 pm
by Cracker Larry
Floatin' Dreams
Nothing wrong with that name. I don't think I've ever seen it either. There are a many boats named Wet Dreams though :lol:

On the other hand,
they have decided that it's going to be called "big snorty hippo"
:lol: I have a similar reputation :wink: But they'd have to have another meeting and throw a few more names in the hat before I cut that decal :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:02 am
by Larry B
[quote="Cracker Larry
they have decided that it's going to be called "big snorty hippo"
:lol: I have a similar reputation :wink: But they'd have to have another meeting and throw a few more names in the hat before I cut that decal :help:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I agree :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:25 pm
by Larry B
Man what a frickin month. These hatchs, or should i say the complete hatch inside and out ARE A PAIN IN THE U KNOW WHAT :help: I'm gettin close to putting the decks on and closing them up, and I'll sure be glad, because i'm real tired of looking at them :doh: Still have to finish the bait well when I get back to that end of the boat, but for now want to finish the casting deck and get that sucker glued down. Won't be until maybe the end of next week, but I'm getting there. Got the fuel tank installed, casting deck fit, now putting in conduits and got some of my wire ordered. Never thought i'd be looking forward to sanding and fairing, but I am :D And I still have to build my trailer, but I'm really looking forward to that also. Should start on that in a couple of weeks. :D Anyway just wanted to vent. Had to pass up a fishin trip this weekend because of weather, if I had my OD finished I'd a been a fishin :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:59 pm
by gstanfield
At least your weather wasn't snow/rain mix like we've been having here the last couple of days. It's been high 30's to low 40's and raining since friday evening 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:02 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:At least your weather wasn't snow/rain mix like we've been having here the last couple of days. It's been high 30's to low 40's and raining since friday evening 8O
OH Yea, I'll bet you haven't had to run the Air conditioner in your shop all day so it would be cool enough to work either :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:14 pm
by Cracker Larry
At least your weather wasn't snow/rain mix like we've been having here the last couple of days
Well, we all have our choices to make, and I'd choose to live somewhere that it doesn't snow in the middle of June. Not a frickin chance :wink: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:32 pm
by sitandfish
Cracker Larry wrote:
At least your weather wasn't snow/rain mix like we've been having here the last couple of days
Well, we all have our choices to make, and I'd choose to live somewhere that it doesn't snow in the middle of June. Not a frickin chance :wink: :lol:
Every time someone complains about how cold it is where they are (like Ohio or Wyoming or the Dakota's) I ask..., "did you know that there is an entire nation that is just NORTH of the United States?" :wink:

Not a frickin chance x2.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:38 pm
by gstanfield
Why do you think I dream of moving away. When I moved out here I was huge into long range competetive shooting as well as hunting and both are great out here. Cold did not bother me and I loved to cross county ski and snowshoe when the snow would fly.

Now I've had a few broken bones, screwed up wrist and remembered how much fun it was to fish when I lived in GA. CL is right, life is about choices and I moved here by choice. The first 8 years I lived here I loved WY and would not even consider relocating. I like to be able to wear a light weight long sleeve shirt in august. I HATE SWEATING!!!!!

However, as I get older I see myself moving back to GA as the last two winters have both been colder and longer than "typical" and I'm really getting tired of being indoors on my days off and freezing at work.

Oh well, all in due time.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:38 pm
by Cracker Larry
Not a frickin chance x2.
I don't even like it snowing once every 20 years and I ain't living where it does :help: It's hot down South now, I like it hot. :D
I HATE SWEATING!!!!!
Then you wouldn't be happy at all down here right now :wink: Not even a little bit. It's hot, George, right at 100 every day, and 100 percent humidity. It will be like this until about October or November. I love it :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:54 pm
by gstanfield
Yes, I remember vividly. I've not spent as much time down there as you have, but I have spent about half as much. I lived in GA for 23 years prior to moving out here :D Heat is fine if you have a good shade, A/C, or water, or at least that's how I see it. I still miss it down there and even though I know for absolute fact that I'll hate the heat I still think I'll like it better than having 8 months of winter :help: I have pictured from 5-6 years ago with me cross country snow skiing in a t-shirt, but nowadays I'm reaching for a longsleeve anytime the temp drops below 60.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:24 pm
by Larry B
Here in AZ we have a DRY heat :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:32 pm
by Cracker Larry
Nothing dry about this heat, we've had at least 5 thundershowers today, and every day for the last few weeks. Maybe 1/2 inch of rain every day. Sometimes more or less, but regular. Nothing but steam between showers. If you don't like hot and steamy, you won't like it here :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:01 am
by sitandfish
There is a lot of adjustment that happens between your ears, too. I can accept the cold IF I get ready for it. Same with the heat.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:22 pm
by Larry B
Well was getting ready for a hard day putting in the fuel line. From what CL had said, using only a 1" conduit would be a biach. And that is what I used :doh: I got all my lube's ready for a hard push and pull session. Before using lube I thought I'd see how far I could push it in. It's got 3 90 degree bends and a 45. Figured I might get to the first bend. Well I pushed and I pushed and I pushed and I pushed and the dang thing jumped out the other end at the fuel tank :doh: It was in, no lube, no pulling just push it in :wink: Made for a sweet day :D :D And yes I used 3/8" marine rated fuel line.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:26 pm
by cape man
Damn your good!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:37 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Damn your good!
Thats what my wife says too :D :wink: Talking about handyman stuff here :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:46 pm
by Cracker Larry
You must have been holding your mouth just right :lol: 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:12 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:You must have been holding your mouth just right :lol: 8)
Don't know about that, but I was holding my hose just right :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:59 pm
by wegcagle
Don't know about that, but I was holding my hose just right
Now that's funny. :lol:

BTW is there a wrong way to hold your hose? :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:45 pm
by hagar
wegcagle wrote:BTW is there a wrong way to hold your hose?
Well, assuming it's your hose and your hand, you can hold it any way you want, but don't hold it after picking hot peppers in the garden.

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:17 pm
by Cracker Larry
Well, assuming it's your hose and your hand, you can hold it any way you want, but don't hold it after picking hot peppers in the garden.

Hagar
8O I've done that, once 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:15 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
Well, assuming it's your hose and your hand, you can hold it any way you want, but don't hold it after picking hot peppers in the garden.

Hagar
8O I've done that, once 8O
Now I know why you had such a problem getting your hose in the conduit, it was swollen up from handling the hot peppers:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:26 pm
by hagar
Cracker Larry wrote:Well, assuming it's your hose and your hand, you can hold it any way you want, but don't hold it after picking hot peppers in the garden.

Hagar

I've done that, once
Won't do it again, will ya'? Had a friend years ago that spent some summers as a youth picking Tobasco peppers on Avery Island, LA. He said you always new who the new pickers were that year!

Hagar

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:30 pm
by gstanfield
You want a real lesson in the finer things in life? Get hosed down with OC spray (police version of pepper spray) and then go and take a shower to wash the stuff off. If you're smart you wear shorts because as the chemical runs down your face it gets to..."sensitive" areas 8O there's not much worse than pepper spray in the wrong place :help: :help:

Don't ask me how I know :cry: :cry:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:51 am
by Larry B
Got a question for everyone?? I'm putting the bow together and was just going to leave the compartments on the side open? but then I got to thinking and was wondering if it might be better to use the cutouts for doors? :doh: Put two hinges on the bottom and latch on the top. It would keep most water out. I would just have to curve them so they fit the curve of the bow. It isn't much and shouldn't be a problem. Before you say "it's your boat, do what you want" Just looking for input or other ideas? Just trying to decide?? in the picture you can see it both ways?? I'm thinking it might be too many doors up there :doh:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:04 am
by cape man
If you're willing to make the doors and buy the hardware, I think they would look sharp.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:12 am
by sitandfish
I vote for the 'fore' doors and open aft compartments. The smaller compartments are too small for doors but, they would be great for tucking a fender and a bow line or two. So, you would also, add a divider between the fore and aft compartments.

But, hey... "it's your boat and blaugh blaugh blaugh blaugh..." :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:47 pm
by Larry B
Well appreciate the comments. After doing some pondering about it for a couple of days, I'm gonna do it :D Gonna give it a go with all four. Pictured it in my sleep and think it will be a nice place to put small stuff, won't be water proof but shouldn't get much water in there anyway. I'll also have a drain out the back that will be open all the time. I'll keep ya'll updated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:54 am
by Larry B
OK, here is what I have so far. Doors wernt' to bad to make. Sides are 1/4" and I used 1/2" material for the doors. Used the belt sander to make the curve on the doors to match the sides. I think it's going to look good when finished with hardware. Haven't decided on hinges yet, because I won't be able to route out for them with only 1/4" material :doh: Anyway here are some pictures:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:03 pm
by cape man
Glue a backing plate on and route away (or just do a cutout if the hinge is 1/4"). I like those!!

By the way...You never responded to the video on how to make your own hooks... here it is again if you didn't see it on the other thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAKx7d4f9iU

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:08 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Glue a backing plate on and route away (or just do a cutout if the hinge is 1/4"). I like those!!

By the way...You never responded to the video on how to make your own hooks... here it is again if you didn't see it on the other thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAKx7d4f9iU
Yes, I thought about a backing plate :doh: Dang got to quit posting updates, always cost me more work :D :lol:

Yes I seen the video :D But in todays day and age it ain't gonna work for me :wink: Thought it was pretty cool though. Did kinda remind ya of the boy scout days. Now I think instead of teaching you how to survive, they just hand you a cell phone and say if you get into trouble just call :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:24 pm
by cape man
Since you are using prefab hatches elsewhere, hanging the little ones in the side with small hinges won't look bad if they are not recessed. Just looks better recessed. What's another day's worth of fiddling around anyway?
Yes, I thought about a backing plate Dang got to quit posting updates, always cost me more work
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's what we're here for!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:14 pm
by Larry B
Just a update for anyone who is following this:

Got my gunwale brackets on and almost have my bait well finished.
Console it just sitting there, still lots of work to do on it :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:27 pm
by cape man
She's looking good Larry!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:34 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Craig,
I did decide to just flush mount the hinges on those small doors. Went with some slam latchs, (White Plastic) so they should match the hatchs pretty close. Was going to go with stainless but didn't want them to stand out like a sore thumb and make my hatchs look bad :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:26 pm
by Cracker Larry
Yep, looking real good 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:03 pm
by gstanfield
Very nice, can't wait to see it finished :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:50 am
by Lower
I also agree! Looks great. Your moving right along.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:06 pm
by Larry B
Well if at all possible DON'T MAKE CURVED HATCHES 8O but on the bright side I'm close to having them finished. Still probably a days worth of work on them but getting closer. Also got the bait well pretty much done. I'll put the drain tubes in at a later time. But getting close to closing up that end of the boat. Got some fairing done on the sides. Wanted to get most of that done before finishing up the gunwales to make it easier :D Anyway here are a couple of pictures:
Also every hatch will have LED lighting along with LED lighting along the gunwales.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:16 pm
by gstanfield
Very nice looking job on those hatches. It's nice to see things besides squares and rectangles on a boat. Really adds that extra touch :D

BTW, are you still coming through here soon?

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:25 pm
by Larry B
George, still planning on it, just don't know the exact dates? Might not be during the Strugis Rally??

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:33 pm
by gstanfield
Cool, if it's after Sturgis all the better actually. The week of the rally there is a big drunken party going on down here that I have to work :cry: I'll still have a couple of days off, but after the rally I will have more days off than the week of. Just let me know whenever you get a date and I'll do whatever it takes to make it happen 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:55 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Looking good Larry :!: Those flatheads won't stand a chance with that fine fishing machine. Continued good luck with your build :D

Richard

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:59 pm
by TomW
Looking great Larry keep it going! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:06 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for all the compliments guys. Yes it's coming together nicely at this point. I'm on a mission at this point :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:54 am
by cape man
Sweet!

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:54 pm
by Larry B
Well finally got out of the bilge and got some sanding and fairing done. Got the top of the rear hatchs on and in the process of fairing them in. Here are the pictures:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:42 pm
by bondo
It looks like its really coming together. Love the hatches. Great work Larry.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:04 pm
by gstanfield
Ummm, I really hate to have to tell you this, but one of those hatches is a differnt color inside :oops: :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:15 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the compliments guys.
And for you George, thanks for letting me know about the different colors :doh:
The lighter blue one is the baitwell and figured I could see my bait fish a lot better in a light colored well. It will also have blue LED lighting, as will all the other hatches also. Don't want to have to mess with a flash light at night looking for something in a hatch :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:38 am
by gstanfield
I figured as much, just felt like giving you a hard time about it :wink: It looks really good BTW :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:09 pm
by Larry B
Well had to go check on the fuel vent status :wink: Seems I have enough hose (I always buy extra) I can make my loop just below the gunwale. It won't be seen as I'll have doors on the side hatchs :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:25 pm
by Cracker Larry
Loop is perfect 8)

Not sure I like the blue. Doesn't matter though, if you do :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:34 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Loop is perfect 8)

Not sure I like the blue. Doesn't matter though, if you do :D
Well to be honest, I'm not sure I like the blue either. Always trying to be a bit different, sometimes it works sometimes it don't. It's not too late to change it, but will probably leave it as is. Won't be seen unless a hatch is open and I have blue leds inside also. Thought about just giving a light sanding and then use S3 primer and leave it at that. (think it would look better than the dark blue) Don't want to go thru the epoxy with two to three coats to cover the dark blue. You did notice I didn't want that dark blue in my bait well :D
You just had to mention it, to get me thinking about it again, Thanks A Lot for that :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:56 am
by Larry B
Guys, I need some input here. I'm not good with colors or design for that matter.
I'm not happy with the color I was going to paint my boat, and also I've decided to switch to Sterling for my paint. Although Brandons S3 paint looks nice and shiny like I want, I just don't have it in me to buff out my paint. Easier for me to spend a bit more and have the shine naturally :D
Now with some colors I'm thinking about. My Kiwigrip is White, I think I have enough left over from my FL14, and I really like the white because it stays cool in the AZ sunshine. But I want a bit of contrast to it also without making other parts of the boat hot. I have grey in my FL14 and it gets very HOT.
I was thinking along the lines of "Lemon Mist" here is some lemon mist on Muddlers boat, the only lemon mist I could find. It would go on the sides and the inside of the boat with the contrast being the White Kiwigrip. I'll have solid black rubrail and haven't decided on the splash rail, maybe just keep it lemon mist also :doh: And my boat has the black bottom chine panel too.
Would like to know if ya'll think this would be enough contrast so as not to look like a big lemon floating on the lake :doh: And with the cost of sterling I can only afford to do it once.
Let me know what ya'll think, and here is a picture of the lemon mist on Muddlers boat. Disregard the Blue and White.
I really need some input here.
Thanks,
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:00 am
by cape man
Go for it!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:27 am
by TomW
I like it also!! 8) But be alerted that yellow is a lot more yellow than that up close in person.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:34 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Guys, I need some input here. I'm not good with colors or design for that matter....

Let me know what ya'll think, ...I really need some input here...
I AM a professional designer. I think it would look good. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:43 am
by Cracker Larry
But be alerted that yellow is a lot more yellow than that up close in person.
True statement!

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I've give no advice on colors, only building :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:15 am
by Larry B
WOW, might be more yellow than I want, Maybe a cream, but I don't have a color chart for sterling and the pdf file doesn't show the cream very well. I was looking more for a cream color than a yellow, but the pdf file showed the lemon alot lighter. Sure glad you guys piped in here. So does anyone have a boat painted with sterling cream????? sitandfish, I think that yellow is tooooo yellow, don't you think a cream would be better :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:54 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:WOW, might be more yellow than I want, Maybe a cream, but I don't have a color chart for sterling and the pdf file doesn't show the cream very well. I was looking more for a cream color than a yellow, but the pdf file showed the lemon alot lighter. Sure glad you guys piped in here. So does anyone have a boat painted with sterling cream????? sitandfish, I think that yellow is tooooo yellow, don't you think a cream would be better :doh:
I did a web search for yellow boats before I posted that I think yellow would look fine. I was actually complimenting a guy at the boat ramp yesterday about how much I liked his yellow boat. He had painted it. It was a salvaged Action Craft.

I was thinking of adding in my original post that you would be amazed how much a white boot stripe would immediately tone the yellow down IF you painted it and then felt it was too much (too bright or too strong). And finally... you are in Arizona. Yellow is a color I think about as a natural part of the landscape out there.
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But, it is your boat and you need to get comfortable with it. I like yellow boats. (Most of them). :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:42 pm
by Larry B
sitandfish, thanks for all the info. It sure gives me something to ponder :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:43 pm
by Fonda@kauai
I painted the bottom of my panga with Sterling Hatteras White. In reality it's a nice light cream color, I really like it. The topsides will be getting it as well. There's some pics of it on my panga thread somewhere.......here's one:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:48 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Fonda, now more to Ponder :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:31 pm
by gstanfield
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I know that everyone has differnt tastes and all that, but I'm personally liking the yellow that I'm starting to see on more and more boats lately. Go for it Larry :D 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:33 pm
by flatpicker
Larry, something else to ponder :D I painted my BW with Sterling "cream."
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More of an off white. We love it. 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:28 pm
by Larry B
flatpicker wrote:Larry, something else to ponder :D I painted my BW with Sterling "cream."
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More of an off white. We love it. 8)
Flatpicker, I kinda like the cream, do you think with kiwigrip white that there would be enough contrast to look good?? :doh:
I think I'm off the yellow kick :wink: for some reason can't get over walking out to a yellow boat :doh:
I'm down to:
Hatteras White
Cream
Blue Tone White
Ice Blue
But might have to splurge for another gallon of kiwigrip in cream color if I go with the blue's (love Shine's colors) but might be able to stay with the white too :doh: I know in my FL14 I painted gray with white kiwigrip, when on the lake I cannot touch or step on anything gray but the white kiwigrip stays cool. Dark colors here in AZ are not a option if you want to enjoy your boat. I could probably cook eggs on the gray part of my boat :help: So anyway I'm just sitting here yaking and yaking trying to decide.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:46 pm
by Larry B
Well had to get my mind off this color stuff and called around for a motor. Well I'm going with the E-tec 60/ White Cowling. Found one local about 30 miles from the house. About 5 bills more than Eds, but thats about what shipping would be? But ofcourse then I have tax. But I want to deal with someone local just in case of any problems :doh: So anyway going to order it in the next couple of weeks :D Now with the white motor, I've got to go back to a color for my boat :doh: Think I got it narrowed down to Cream or Ice Blue??? I think the white motor would look great with the ice blue :D
The last couple of days I've had to remake the curved hatch doors, wasn't happy with the second set, but this third set is going to work. Lots of extra work but I think it will be nice.
Still have to build my trailer, and changed my mind on that also. Was going to do Aluminum but found a company who can dip it for a few hundred after I have it built. So I'm going back to channel iron and i'll save quite a bit of money :D
Anyway, just taking a break and yaking away. I'll post up some pics later in the week.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:22 pm
by Larry B
Well just looked out front and found these :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:39 pm
by Cracker Larry
Did they fall from the sky? Cool 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:57 pm
by Bowmovement
Cracker Larry wrote:Did they fall from the sky? Cool 8)
Fall off the back of a truck?

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:32 pm
by Larry B
Well went and picked up my Trailer Frame today. Still needs a few modifications but she will be sweet :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:03 pm
by Larry B
Well I know one thing, I'm too old for this S&^%.
Got most the pieces cut, I'll fit everything together, then take it apart and sand and prime it. Yep, aint gonna have it galvanized. Way too much work, and it's a heavy duty trailer and it will outlast me for sure. Going to paint it the same color as the boat. It will have s3 primer so it should last a good while even if it goes in salt water a few times.
This is some heavy stuff, 4" channel 5.4# per foot so almost 110 lbs each. Then I had to cut them to interlock into the channel. I know some trailer builders just butt them up, but this is going to be a tank. The 3"x3"x .188 is about double the thickness you really need, this is one stout tongue :help: :wink:
Anyway here is where I'm at:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:43 am
by gstanfield
Looking good Larry, it's nice to have a break and work on something else for a while.

George :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:17 pm
by Larry B
Well, had a pretty good Saturday. Got it all tack welded and it's looking good :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:46 pm
by Larry B
btw, should I use the treated doug fir for the bunks? or just regular? or is there something better to use? any info would be appreciated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:55 pm
by Cracker Larry
I'd use pressure treated lumber. I've never seen PT fir, living in the SE we have PT yellow pine, but I'm sure it would be fine. Maybe better would be some of that new synthetic lumber? I've never used it, but I think I'd look into it if I was building a trailer. The trailer is looking great!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:06 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I'd use pressure treated lumber. I've never seen PT fir, living in the SE we have PT yellow pine, but I'm sure it would be fine. Trailer is looking great!
Thanks Larry, I'll use treated. Yea, it was a good day as I had no clue how I was going to bend those channels to come to a point. 4" channel is pretty stout stuff. So I started using everything I had, straps, clamps, more straps, more clamps. The first try wasn't so great, just about done and pulling a string to make sure everything was straight and BLING BLANG SHIT CLAMPS FLYING ALL OVER THE SHOP, I just ducked and let it all happen. Then started over, got it straight and tack welded it so it didn't do that again. I'm way too old for this shit :help: Here is a picture of some of the clamping procedure :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:27 pm
by Cracker Larry
That's pretty cool. I'm no metal worker, but why not cut the angles and weld them rather than bending?

Did you see my edit above about the synthetic lumber?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:37 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:That's pretty cool. I'm no metal worker, but why not cut the angles and weld them rather than bending?

Did you see my edit above about the synthetic lumber?
No I didn't see the edit until now. Yea I was thinking about that stuff, I'm going to the big box tomorrow and check it out.

I thought about cutting and welding, but then I would have to put a gusset top and bottom? I really didn't think I would be able to bend them but being stubborn I thought I'd try and it worked out. Because I didn't cut them now I don't need gusset's :D it's a nice fair curve. Thats another reason I made the trailer longer. Each side rail is 20' long, Then My 3" sq tube will extend a little over two feet in front of that. The longer the rails the less the angle of the bend :wink: Trailer will be aprox. 22' 6", Heck my truck won't even be in the water to launch :D :D Plenty of room for my spare up front.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:14 am
by Cracker Larry
My truck never gets in the water to launch either, at least not at most ramps.

Did you heat the steel to bend it, or do it cold?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:29 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:My truck never gets in the water to launch either, at least not at most ramps.

Did you heat the steel to bend it, or do it cold?
Well stupid me, I sold my Oxy-Acetylene setup a couple years ago, because I wasn't going to do this stuff anymore :doh: So yea thats why all the clamps, Cold Bend. If I had heat I wouldn't need hardly any clamps. But as it turned out, the cold bend is good. Don't know if I could have gotten it this close with a hot bend and sometimes it weakens the metal. :wink: So I'm happy :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:11 pm
by Larry B
Just want to show what people do who have more time than money :wink:
While building my trailer, i knew I needed some wire looms to hold the wire in place. Well didn't search the internet because I knew even if I found what I was looking for would cost too much. So went to the big box store and got a couple feet of chain for about 6 bucks. Then proceeded to cut my own.
Here the chain is ready to be cut:
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Now it's cut:
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Here they are welded onto the frame:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:58 pm
by BassMunn
Hey Larry, nice to see your trailer coming along.

I have to ask why you have changed your mind about galvanizing it? It's so much easier and more rugged obviously.
For paint you will have to clean off all the rust and oil and every other little nasty on that steel before you paint.
For galvanizing, you build it, clean off the welding flux and send it in.
Mine took a whole 1 day to come back finished.
They dip the whole frame in a few different baths before it goes into the main tank, can't remember all of them, but one of them is hydrochloric acid which eats all the rust off and prepares the steel for the galv coating. As long as there is no paint on any of the steel, you really don't have to do much preperation.

I feel you when you say you are too old for this. My frame eventually weighed 470lb. Not exactly easy when you are doing it on your own. Those 20ft beams get pretty heavy after a while 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:04 pm
by Larry B
Bassmunn, Yea I probably should have done the galvanizing, but decided to paint it to match the boat. If I did nothing to the steel, it would out last me :wink: The steel is the cheap part of the trailer no worries. But I do appreciate your input :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:28 pm
by TomW
Larry if you don't galvanize, rent a sand blaster and blast the frame to get everything clean It won't take long and you will have a super clean surface to apply the primer to. I would not do it any other way if I didn't galvanize a frame, I'd be afraid of missing a corner and leaving some oil or debris some where.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:34 pm
by Cracker Larry
My frame eventually weighed 470lb
That doesn't seem too bad for a trailer that size. My store bought galvanized trailer is about 530 pounds complete.

In our salt water painted trailers won't last 5 years, they have to be galvanized or aluminum, and aluminum lasts much longer. Maybe 10 years on a galvanized if you wash it every trip. But if it doesn't go in salt, paint will last a long time.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:35 pm
by Larry B
Hey, if the trailer don't work out as planned, I'll make another one :doh: I do know it will be stout and If I have to replace it in few years, well it is what it is. Now the boat that's a different story, it's made to last a lifetime and then some. I can build a trailer in a weekend :D But I do appreciate the input to keep me on the straight and narrow :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:01 pm
by cape man
Fishing in those Oligotrophic waters (look it up boys :D )that trailer will last as long as mine, or maybe longer. Now bring it down here and we'll rust that bitch in a weekend! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Larry your doing some awesome work there pal. Can't wait to see and hear the reports of that girl when she hits the water.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:53 am
by Larry B
Thanks Craig, and again I learn a new word: Oligotrophic :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:25 pm
by cape man
This site's all about learning things...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:09 pm
by BassMunn
Larry sorry I didn't realise you had already painted the frame and I assumed Salt water as well. I Hadn't noticed your location.
Paint in freshwater is fine and that steel is pretty thick, will probably outlast you like you said :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:52 pm
by macs
Oligo what???????? 8O I had to take my shoes off and use my toes to spell that one.

Just kidding, I looked it up :doh:

I painted mine too (fresh water) It was an old fix'er up'er. A little cutting, welding, sand blasting, priming and had my painters spray it with industrial black. Hope it lasts. We'll see

It still staying in the garage for now. Don't know how long the queen is going to allow it 8O

Looking good Larry

Macs

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:18 pm
by Larry B
Tom, I moved this off CL's thread.
LarryB let me know when your ready to prop your boat and engine. That 60Etec is one powerful little engine. The torque it has can drive a prop equal to what the 70 or 75HP other engines can. For example the new Yammi 70 can drive a 13 pitch at 6000 rpm's, while the Etec 60 will drive a 17 pitch at 6000 rpms on my C18 at 1900lbs. A difference of about 3-5 mph at top end with even more effect at the mid-range.

So good choice on the motor and let me know once you know the rough weight for your average trip. I'll probably need some other things to get closer to the real characteristics but your still a little ways a way from those. I'll then run them through my 3 prop calculators. Let me know also if you want a 3 blade or a 4 blade prop that will let you run shallower. It will help me give you a prop size and a suggestion of where to go to get the right prop.

Tom
I've got a deal on the 60 etec and probably going to pick it up next week. Should I get a prop at that time? And if so which one? No set date on when my OD will be finished but I'm hoping for a big Christmas Present Splash :D As for weight, I should be very close to CL's boat. I've got the same jack plate, aprox. same epoxy (well maybe a bit more :wink: ) and I'll have a big ice chest for overnight Cat fishing. 2 batteries under the console, same anchors and rode, My fat ass is a bit bigger :lol: (ok a lot bigger) I'm coming in right now at 240lbs. So any help will be appreciated.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:52 pm
by TomW
Larry great little motor, lot of torque for it's size, I may go with it myself, still debating with it the 75 and the Suzuki 70 and 80. First things first check with the dealer to see if he will work with you on getting the right prop, multiple exchanges in other words. If not I have an e-mail source that will give us at least one exchange if the first one isn't right. I'll be honest the Evinrude props are extremely over priced. Check prices with the dealer and check what the guy I'll recommend to you for a similar prop at $300. I am doing the same thing for Mad Dog and his new 225Etec and he got a quote of $600 for an Evinrude prop. 8O 8O

I am going to assume that you are going to have a Tach so we can get this dialed it properly also. I went ahead and ran the numbers for your boat weighing 1900lbs all in, with the 60Etec. The smaller formula I use came in with a prop of 13.25 x 16, the master formula I use which considers a lot more input shows a 13.5 x 17 pitch before considering rake and cup. Once rake and pitch is taken into account a 13. 25-13.75 x 15" prop should be your first try with this motor. We may need to move down to a 13" pitch but that's fine also. That is why we want to make sure we have the option to exchange the prop.

By the way your top speed will be right at 35 mph about 3mph down from what CLarry had before he put on the T-top and started adding weight. :lol: to get to his current 36.

If you don't buy your prop from Evinrude the prop I'll recommend is this one in the 13.75 x15" pitch: http://www.turbo-props.com/products/turbo-1-series_t1s

Dan's Discount Props has the best prices I have found for any type of prop you want: As I said he offers an exchange for a small fee($25-40) and the second one with your tach numbers should be right on. http://www.dansdiscountprops.com/propellers.cfm He's a nice guy to deal with and really knows his stuff. If there is a better prop than what your bringing up he'll let you know.

I propped Kurt and his FS17 down in Crystal River through Dan's and he ended up with a Turbo in a 13" pitch on his F60 Yamaha. But it doesn't have near the torque the Etec does. So let's start with the 15 and if we need to go down to the 13.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:12 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Tom,
Still doing some dealing, seems the motor he had, he doesn't have :doh: Anyway, I know the questions to ask now about the prop and I'll let you know.
Only reason I'm getting the motor now is, I've got my wife in a really good mood and she will never notice that shiny bright white motor sitting in my shop of course with a cover over it :wink:
Thanks again for your help on this.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:19 pm
by TomW
I've got my wife in a really good mood
How'd you manage that wives are always wondering what we're doing in our dens out there! :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:21 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:
I've got my wife in a really good mood
How'd you manage that wives are always wondering what we're doing in our dens out there! :lol: :lol:
Bought her some SHINY STUFF :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:27 pm
by Cracker Larry
13. 25-13.75 x 15" prop should be your first try with this motor.
Hmm, that's what I'm using with my low torque Yamaha :lol: If that engine has so much torque, shouldn't you start with a 17?
By the way your top speed will be right at 35 mph about 3mph down from what CLarry had before he put on the T-top and started adding weight. :lol: to get to his current 36.
The T-top went on my boat 3 months before the engine :doh: Never ran it without the top.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:28 am
by TomW
Hmm, that's what I'm using with my low torque Yamaha If that engine has so much torque, shouldn't you start with a 17
It's a 60HP not a 70 and the recommended prop is well cupped and raked, not nearly flat :wink: , thus the 15. We can go either way if we have to. Just for reference your 70 has 14 ft/lbs less torque at the prop or 12% less than the 60Etec. If I put a prop in your style on we could run a 17. But we're not doing that.

Sorry on the T-top could have sworn you put it on after we propped No Excuse. :?: :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:12 am
by Larry B
Well she ain't perfect, but she will do. Decided on White. Painted it a light blue but didn't want it to clash with the boat. White I can go with anything I decide on painting the boat. Heres where she is as of now:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:33 pm
by macs
Sweet 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:49 pm
by Cracker Larry
Looks like factory built from here 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:25 pm
by Larry B
And I made some super heavy duty bunks. Two 2x6's which makes the bunks 4x6". Bolted them directly to the cross members and it still leaves room for the skeg. Also bolted them together in between the bunks also. I'll put bunk carpet on them also.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:32 pm
by cape man
As my boy would say...Dude!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:45 pm
by majorgator
Looks good Larry. I sure admire/appreciate the concept of doing everything yourself.

seth

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:53 pm
by Larry B
Yes, I really like doing it all my self. But it's cheaper to go buy one :doh: except that it won't be custom made, and I can't say that I built it :wink: But if it breaks or falls apart I have no one to blame except my self. :help:

Thanks for the complements guys :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:37 am
by wegcagle
Looks amazing to me Larry. Welding is something that I know nothing about. Hmmmmmmmm :?: Maybe I should change that :lol:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:25 am
by gstanfield
Do it Will. I love welding, it's a man's version of sewing :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:53 am
by topwater
I use to cut and weld for a living, very nice job :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:54 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the compliments on the trailer. I'm almost done and ready to go to MVD for inspection and registration.
On a very good note I ORDERED MY MOTOR TODAY :D :D :D Well good I ordered it, but bad for my bank account 8O Its a White 60HP E-tec, should have it here within two weeks. Ordered direct from the factory from a dealer in So. Calif. It's gonna look sweet on the back of the OD. Now to finish the boat :help: :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:46 pm
by gstanfield
Congrats on ordering the motor :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:25 am
by Bowmovement
Congrats!!

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:58 am
by macs
You go Larry :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:48 am
by topwater
Good deal on the engine, how did you get a dealer to sell you a engine over 25 hp and ship it to you ?
Most will not sell one unless they install it or another dealer installs it .

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:16 am
by Larry B
topwater wrote:Good deal on the engine, how did you get a dealer to sell you a engine over 25 hp and ship it to you ?
Most will not sell one unless they install it or another dealer installs it .
Just ask him, I think they can ship evinrude with no problem.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:18 pm
by Larry B
Got my trailer finished today. Except for the winch post and bunk carpet. I'll also have some other things to do, but need the boat on the trailer to do it right.
Went to MVD and got my vin # and plate and title. I'm legal to go :D Here's what she looks like behind my truck:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:18 pm
by Cracker Larry
Looks great Larry 8) Beautiful house too. You don't have much grass to cut, do you :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:45 pm
by wegcagle
Amazing job on the trailer Larry :!: Are you going to carpet the bunks or are you going to put rollers on it? I only ask because I debated which one to go with myself. Kinda just want to know others opinions.

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:47 pm
by Larry B
wegcagle wrote:Amazing job on the trailer Larry :!: Are you going to carpet the bunks or are you going to put rollers on it? I only ask because I debated which one to go with myself. Kinda just want to know others opinions.

Will
Just going to carpet the bunks.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:06 pm
by wegcagle
That's what I ended up doing as well. One of my friends talked me out of the rollers, said over time they freeze up.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:08 pm
by gstanfield
Trailer is looking good there pard. You'll be pulling a big cat into that boat in no time :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:46 pm
by Larry B
Well picked up my motor today :D Unloaded it myself and had to open the crate to look at it. I'll get some shrink wrap to keep it clean for the next couple months :D
Anyway here are some pictures, might not excite you as much as me but wanted to post them :wink:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:32 pm
by TomW
That looks mighty fine to me Larry! I'm thinking of going the same way on my C18! The torque of that 60 let's you run a prop equal to a 70 in most other engines. Hey enjoy and take care of that beauty! :D :D

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:20 am
by cape man
Hurry up! I want to see that baby run!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:28 am
by cottontop
Larry Your trailer looks fine. You won't be dissapointed with your motor choice. The 60 will put you where you want to be quickly. Have a great weekend. John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:35 am
by cape man
Hey John,

Where you been? Can you make it to Boca this next spring? Easy Morning, Clara, and No Excuse sure would like to all meet each other, and Larry's coming all the way from Arizona...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:39 am
by macs
Looks sweet Larry. One day I'll be able to get a new shinny one :D

Can't wait to see it hanging on the boat.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:08 am
by topwater
VERY NICE 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:12 am
by wegcagle
Oooooooo Pretty. I do like the new ETECs. That ought to motivate you to get on that boat and get her done. :D

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:35 am
by Larry B
Thanks Guys :D Yes I've got most everything I need to finish her. Only thing left to buy is a bit more Epoxy :doh: , my rubrail kit, Batteries, sterling paint, oh and my transducer. Gps will be here monday Garmin 546s :D , and my Uniden Radio UM415 OCEANUS D, Oh and I still need a compass and I'm sure a couple other things, but overall she's lookin good. I'll have some more pictures to post soon.
So far still stuck on the name "FLOATIN' DREAMS" :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:07 pm
by Larry B
Well had to put her up because it will be months away :( Put casters on to move it around and shrink wrap to keep dust, dirt and overspray off it.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:04 pm
by Larry B
CL or others, do you think I should go ahead and install the STINGRAY HYDROFOIL XPII or wait till I have the prop dialed in??? :doh: Would appreciate help on this, Thanks

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:15 pm
by Cracker Larry
The foil will change the prop that you need, so put it on first then work on the prop. The foil compresses the water around the prop, makes it denser, and you won't turn as many RPMs with it as you will without it. I really should have changed props when I put mine on, still should :doh: But I figure I'll bust it soon enough and change it then :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:44 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Larry, Now I need Tom's input on the prop to buy????
Really appreciate the help.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:43 pm
by Cracker Larry
I've never propped a 4 stroke outboard, so I can't help ya there. But I'd allow a 1-2" pitch reduction for the foil in the calculations. I lost about 400-500 RPMs when I added the foil. Your boat will be real close to mine in gross weight, about 2,000 pounds all loaded up with people and fuel and gear. Tom is good with the numbers.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:17 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I've never propped a 4 stroke outboard, so I can't help ya there. But I'd allow a 1-2" pitch reduction for the foil in the calculations. I lost about 400-500 RPMs when I added the foil. Your boat will be real close to mine in gross weight, about 2,000 pounds all loaded up with people and fuel and gear. Tom is good with the numbers.
Mine isn't a 4 stroke :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:25 pm
by peter-curacao
Larry B wrote: Mine isn't a 4 stroke :doh:
Just ask her to work twice as hard! you go from two strokes to four I think you will like it :wink:

ps that means bring extra flowers on Wednesday's!, Fridays stays the same! LOL

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:03 pm
by Larry B
peter-curacao wrote:
Larry B wrote: Mine isn't a 4 stroke :doh:
Just ask her to work twice as hard! you go from two strokes to four I think you will like it :wink:

ps that means bring extra flowers on Wednesday's!, Fridays stays the same! LOL
Yes Four Strokes would be twice as fun :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:51 pm
by Cracker Larry
Peter just ain't right :lol:

Mine isn't a 4 stroke :doh:
That big fat engine sure could pass for a 4 stroke :lol: I'm running a Yamaha 17" pitch stainless with a little cup and I'm about 400 RPMs low. I'd start with a 15 pitch.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:42 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Peter just ain't right :lol:

Mine isn't a 4 stroke :doh:
That big fat engine sure could pass for a 4 stroke :lol: I'm running a Yamaha 17" pitch stainless with a little cup and I'm about 400 RPMs low. I'd start with a 15 pitch.
Yes thats what Tom recommended also:
I'll recommend is this one in the 13.75 x15" pitch:
Just wanted to be sure that didn't change if I put the Hydrofoil on :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:46 pm
by TomW
LarryB raise your engine when you put the foil on and that should compensate for the foil. It's causing excess drag. CLarry you can do the same thing. Crank yours up on your Jack plate and see if that helps you with out causing any ventilation or you get very slight ventilation in very sharp turns you would never do except in extreme circumstances. Theoretically at least it should not cause a reduction in speed or rpm if set properly, but who knows theory! :lol: I know you've had fins before but this is a new type for you. CL we can also try an alternative prop with more cupping that will hold more water and let you raise it higher. It will be smaller, but won't be as extreme as the Yamaha's we were working with at first but I think it will work for you. If you want to try it e-mail me your numbers and we'll do it. Or give me a call
Let me know what happens so we can help LarryB with his.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:12 pm
by Cracker Larry
CLarry you can do the same thing. Crank yours up on your Jack plate and see if that helps you with out causing any ventilation or you get very slight ventilation in very sharp turns you would never do except in extreme circumstances. Theoretically at least
Really? Do you really think that I put a jack plate on my boat 6 months ago, and haven't already got it cranked up to it's highest possible position :doh: That's why I bought a jack plate. Are you drinking today :?: I'm hurt! I fish this boat 2-3 days a week in real skinny water, and she is tweaked up to the max :lol: The foil runs flush on the surface and the prop tips are almost out of the water, but the foil is still compressing water and it still needs 1 pitch smaller prop than without it. But it's pretty good, goes faster than I want to go and gets better economy than I expected. Could be a little better I guess, but like I say, when I bust this prop I'll get it perfect :D

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Larry, I'd still start with the 15 like Tom suggests, that should be close to perfect, but get an agreement with your dealer to swap it if it's not. Your engine has different torque and power bands than mine does.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:14 pm
by macs
Not that the boat, motor and prop size even compare to the OD18, but it's what I did on my last deck boat. 22' with 8.5' beam 2100 lbs dry. 150 Mariner. We tryed several till we landed with a laser II 20 pitch. it would run 47 mph and was right up there with the WOT #'s. We brought the boat up to the reservior (before we had moved up here) for my 40th birthday. Hit a stump, inspected everything, got back on plane and stopped to look at a big dead catfish and she wouldn't get on plane again.Just slipped. I looked at my wife and said "we spun a hub" she said "what does that mean"? and I said "it means were about to go back to the marina and buy a $ 350.00 prop" :lol: The Laser II had one of the older style hubs that had to be pressed in, so it was sent off later and we used it as a back up. We limped back to the marina, which had a good selection. The new prop we bought that day had the newer style with the replacable hub. Anyway, we went down a pitch to a 19 and picked up 3mph on top end and what seemed to be much faster, I mean much faster out of the hole. Just the 1 pitch size. We were right at that sweet spot. A good day of boating was had by all.

Oh yea, that was my birthday present :D

Macs

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:49 pm
by TomW
CL I figured you had it as high as you could go but figured I'd remind ya! :wink: Naw no drinkin' today damn it. Sat waiting at the phone to see if my mom made it out of the hospital from a heart attack. They had to go in twice after they got her two different times to repair damage. Second time was very iffy after the first one. They do not like to do a second one when a patient is still in recovery from the first. But she's fine and home.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:19 pm
by Larry B
Tom, glad to hear your mom's ok,

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:17 pm
by TomW
Thanks Larry! Sort of hard to do much this past week, just a bag packed and ready to drive to Ohio at a minutes notice.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:19 pm
by Larry B
Tom, I do know that feeling, it's not a good feeling :(

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:16 am
by Cracker Larry
I'm hoping the best for your Mother also Tom. Sorry, I know how that is, mine just got out of the hospital with pneumonia and a fungal lung infection. I'm glad mine is just an hour away, she isn't getting any younger. I had to leave the builders meet at Boca early last year because she was put in the hospital for chest pains. Seems like every couple of months now it's something else :( I keep a bag packed too. Wishing yall the best :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:55 am
by Larry B
CL, hope everthing goes well for your mother also.
My mother has Alzheimer's and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. She's in Utah and my sister is watching her. I don't get up to see her as often as I'd like to or should do. It's more of a selfish thing to go see her, as she doesn't know you half the time or the last time you were there.
Went through something similar with my Dad, he got Lou Gehrig's Disease or ALS. Just the opposite of my mother, his mind was 100% but his body failed, My mother's body is 100% but her mind has failed.
Both are very cruel disease's and wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. Lost my Dad almost 20 yrs ago, and now have a bag packed to leave for Utah.
Don't know why I wrote this, probably just a way to get it out.
Gotta go work on my boat.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:34 pm
by AussieBoater
Yep, sometimes you have just gotta get it out... It's good that a common goal, such as building a boat, brings people together.

Now we just have to hope that all the world leaders start building one... think about all the co-operation and good will then...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:44 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:...Don't know why I wrote this, probably just a way to get it out.
Gotta go work on my boat.
I think we all know why you wrote this and appreciate it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:02 pm
by Larry B
OK guys I need some more help. I'm putting together my console and have some questions. My radio will be mounted low in the front, gps/sonar upper to the right, now question is? On top of the console I want to put my antenna 8', my compass, and anchor light with removable pole. Compass in the middle and antenna and light on each end. Does anyone see a problem with this setup?? Been reading around the net and some say good, some say bad, so wanted to get some real time experience.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:47 am
by AussieBoater
Only problem i see is if the light is not high enough it will shine in your eyes while you are underway...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:59 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:OK guys I need some more help. I'm putting together my console and have some questions. My radio will be mounted low in the front, gps/sonar upper to the right, now question is? On top of the console I want to put my antenna 8', my compass, and anchor light with removable pole. Compass in the middle and antenna and light on each end. Does anyone see a problem with this setup?? Been reading around the net and some say good, some say bad, so wanted to get some real time experience.
That's kind of my set up. White light behind me, though. Like AussieBoater says. Compass in middle. GPS on right. Fish finder on left. Radio a bit lower on right. Antenna above on T-top. I always like the removable anchor light. Just gets it out of the way.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:08 am
by Larry B
I was going to go with a 60 to 72 inch pole for the light so it's not in my eyes. I'm thinking I should be ok, its just that some have said it will interfere with the compass?? But even with that it should not make a difference unless I'm talking :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:29 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:I was going to go with a 60 to 72 inch pole for the light so it's not in my eyes. I'm thinking I should be ok, its just that some have said it will interfere with the compass?? But even with that it should not make a difference unless I'm talking :doh:
Voltage is so low on lights now a days, I don't think it could be a current concern. I have a flood light over my head and the required nav. light above that. The compass is a pure decorative item on my boat. If I HAVE to use it, it means I lost All power to the GPS and all other electrical equipment. It's still front and center. Tradition. :wink:

PS Larry, I can't remember if you have speakers in the console? Big hunks of metal (especially magnetic pieces of metal like in speakers) are the only thing I can think about that would influence the compass on your boat. Maybe a big flashlight if you left it on the console. Most modern materials are low in metal and thus low in magnetic influence.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:46 am
by Larry B
Thanks sitandfish, appreciate the input. No speakers, decided I wanted peace and quiet when I'm out :wink: Have the weather radio for weather and thats it. So I'm going to go ahead as planned. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:04 am
by Cracker Larry
Remember the VHF has a magnet in the speaker and mic, don't get them too near the compass.
Voltage is so low on lights now a days, I don't think it could be a current concern.
Voltage is 12V, just like it's always been :lol: Any DC wiring can cause compass interference. When the wires are run flat, side by side they create a magnetic field. All you have to do to eliminate it is to twist the wires. 3 or 4 twists per foot will stop any interference.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:49 am
by gstanfield
Any easy way to make a "twisted pair" is to take the length of wire that you need twisted put one end in a vice and the other end in the chuck of your drill, stand back and twist it a little bit with the drill. That's what we did on fire trucks to prevent interference. Then again we were running 30+ feet, if you were only running a couple of feet you can easily twist that by hand :D

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:02 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote: All you have to do to eliminate it is to twist the wires. 3 or 4 twists per foot will stop any interference.
And it looks nice and is easy to work with when your a cheap guy like me and didn't buy the cable :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:20 am
by gk108
I once worked in a factory that produced wiring assemblies for Ford and Chrysler. We used a jig with a ½" Makita drill to twist a pair of wires in regular production, 400+ circuits a day. In that instance, they were trying to minimize RFI. Be sure to allow extra length when twisting pairs of wires :!: All wires with current running through them will produce a magnetic field. Twisting them alternates the polarity of the magnetic field presented to nearby objects. Hopefully, the opposing polarities will cancel each other. Routing those wires a minimum distance from the compass helps to average the magnetic fields by the time they make it to the compass, so that the field that is left is at least stable enough for the compensators to work.

The strength of the fields around a wire is directly proportional to the current (amps) flowing through that wire. LED lamps use very little current, so they create a much weaker field around their circuits. That doesn't mean that you can get away with running an untwisted pair near the compass. It does mean that you might not need a compass correction card just for running with the nav lights on.

If all else fails, you can build a mu-metal box raceway to contain the wires in the console. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:43 am
by Larry B
Well looks like I don't need the footman loop afterall. I made some clips out of pvc that will hold it in place :D I believe this will work::
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:33 pm
by Larry B
And I believe I'm going to be happy with my transducer. I don't think I can shear it off?? It's only 3/16" protrusion. The bait well pickup is much more than that.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:47 pm
by TomW
Ah, the mother of ingenuity. 8) What's the force that it takes to remove the ladder from the clips. You can use a fishing scale to get it. Just wondering cause I have the same problem. Still trying to come up with something for my swimming wife. :lol: (I don't swim, something about being in the Navy and knowing what's down there! :lol: )

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:18 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Ah, the mother of ingenuity. 8) What's the force that it takes to remove the ladder from the clips. You can use a fishing scale to get it. Just wondering cause I have the same problem. Still trying to come up with something for my swimming wife. :lol: (I don't swim, something about being in the Navy and knowing what's down there! :lol: )

Tom
Tom, don't know the force, but it's pretty stiff. I can sand or file down the clips to get the desired force. But good thing is the ladder will still work even if it's in the clips :D It won't be the most convient boarding ladder but it's out of the way and it will work :wink:
Tom, did you get my email about the props????

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:56 pm
by TomW
Got it Larry

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:20 pm
by Cracker Larry
Those are great ladders. Raymond uses them on the swim platforms he builds, and when he builds me one that's what it will have :D Good solution on the clips 8) You could always run another Velcro strap around it for additional security. And the transducer is the cat's @ss, wish I had one. Very nice 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:06 pm
by macs
Nice job on the ladder Larry

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:51 pm
by Aripeka Angler
I like the ladder 8) I never thought about pvc pipe for clipper clips, that is a great idea. I was searching for some clips this week for the broken bracket on my Armstrong ladder and found these.... http://www.boatownerswarehouse.com/brow ... ,6001.html
I didn't buy them for my ladder but instead bought these....
http://www.buckwoodcraft.com/marine_hardware.htm#swim ladder storage
Great minds think alike :lol: I was thinking about clipper clips for your ladder, but I didn't want to butt in.
Your boat is looking great. Browse the last website I posted if you get a chance. They make and sell some neat stuff...

Richard

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:36 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Richard, Yes I've purchashed from buckwood before.
I'm hoping I can make the clips look very good. I plan on sanding them and painting them the same color as the hull, I'm using sterling so it should work, but if not they will have to remain gray :( but I have other options also. I always wanted clips, but thought the footman loop with clips was the ticket. But the clips are strong.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:24 pm
by Larry B
I'm a HAPPY CAMPER TODAY :D :D :D
She's on the trailer, but not pernamant. Only to be able to finish the trailer and take her to Fish and Game to get my serial number and numbers :D I'll do my thru hull transducer and bait well pickup while she's on the trailer, then she's off to finish her up. Here are some exciting pictures for me anyway :D 8) In the picture with the patch of paint missing is where I used a pressure washer and it blew the paint right off the boat :doh: Good thing I have decided to go with a differnt color and this time I using Sterling :D
Don't know how accurate a big game scale is, but if it's close as of right now she weighs close to 1000lbs and I don't have the gunwales on yet :help: :help: :help:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:02 pm
by gstanfield
:D Looking good Larry 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:04 pm
by Bowmovement
Looks good Larry. I like the homie chromies on the trailer 8)

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:15 pm
by Cracker Larry
She looks great :!: Now that she's out where we can see her. That spray rail sure looks good, wish I had one 8) And the bow is standing high and proud. Very nice.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:30 pm
by macs
Looks fantastic Larry, except for the paint thing. What paint was it ???????

It's a great feeling to get them on a trailer, even if it's coming off again. I had to de-rig and flip mine back over to fix the bottom, if you recall, :oops: Live and learn :wink:

Looks great

Macs :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:39 pm
by Larry B
Looking good Larry
Thanks George, gotta look good so when you come down to fish :D
Looks good Larry. I like the homie chromies on the trailer
Maybe I should put hydraulics on her and lower her about a foot :roll:
She looks great Now that she's out where we can see her. That spray rail sure looks good, wish I had one And the bow is standing high and proud. Very nice.She looks great :!: Now that she's out where we can see her. That spray rail sure looks good, wish I had one 8) And the bow is standing high and proud. Very nice.
Thanks CLarry, I'll know how the spray rail works in a few months. If you remember I raised my bow by about 3 inchs so she would stand proud :wink:
Looks fantastic Larry, except for the paint thing. What paint was it ???????
Thanks Macs, the paint was System Three WR-LPU, not sure but I might have sanded the hull too smooth 8O , but others here have had problems with it also.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:06 pm
by gstanfield
Thanks George, gotta look good so when you come down to fish
:D Absolutely :D I'd be honored to fish from that fine vessel 8)

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:07 pm
by Cracker Larry
I might have sanded the hull too smooth 8O
Too much fun whats that mean
It's like too much money, theres no such thing
Its like a girl too pretty, with too much class
Being too lucky, a car too fast
No matter what they say I've done, well I ain't never had too much fun

Tracy Atkins
:lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:18 am
by cape man
Big moment getting the numbers and all! Looking great! Like the raised bow and am waiting patiently to hear and see how the spray rail works.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:41 pm
by cottontop
Larry, your boat and trailer sure do look purty. It's a big boost when you get your numbers. Game officer came to my home and spent nearly 3 hours checking mine out and asking all kinds of questions before he had to leave and write some tickets. Great work on the trailer too. john

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:15 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the compliments Cape man and Cottontop :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:55 pm
by macs
the paint was System Three WR-LPU,
I haven't pressure washed mine yet, hope I never need to, but I have had problems with keeping the paint it on the leading edge of the chine, where it touches the trailer to load. I've touched it up a couple of times. I don't power the boat up on the trailer or try to load it fast. The paint seems to scape off on teh caprpeted bunks very easy and I put the cross linker in each coat. :doh:

Macs

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by Larry B
She's looking better after a good power wash :D Sure glad I did this now and not later :help:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:48 pm
by majorgator
Whoa 8O Looks like there's a poor bond between the topcoat and primer. Then again, you probably already know that :wink: I hate to see paint problems, because that's never an easy chore to go back and fix.

seth

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:04 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Larry B wrote:She's looking better after a good power wash :D Sure glad I did this now and not later :help:

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Brings back memories for me...

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Good luck on the repaint. If you need any advice or moral support, send me an email. You won't be disappointed with the Sterling...

Richard :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:09 pm
by Larry B
Richard, looks exactly like what I have :doh: :doh: If I remember you used a scraper?? Sure glad I'm switching to sterling. Biggest thing is I've got a lot of sanding ahead, But she will look great when done :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:39 am
by Lower
Boat looks great Larry. Too bad about the paint, but like you said better now than later. Would suck to have to deal with that once all your pretty hardware is attached!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:28 pm
by cape man
DANG!!!! That SUCKS!!!

Any ideas what happened?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:05 pm
by TomW
Dang Larry getting all that paint off will be a PIA. But once you do you'll be glad you did. We can even subtract a 1/8lb from our prop calcs. :lol: :lol:

Good luck Guy and feel for you! :cry:

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:19 pm
by Cracker Larry
Would suck to have to deal with that once all your pretty hardware is attached!
Yep, like I have to do with mine :(

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:31 pm
by TomW
BL feel for you to as your is in the inside hull with all the crevises and corners to deal with. :x :x Hope your can get most of it off with a power washer and not have to sand it.

Good luck and best wishes!!!

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:24 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:DANG!!!! That SUCKS!!!

Any ideas what happened?
Yea, I painted it with the wrong paint :doh:
Dang Larry getting all that paint off will be a PIA. But once you do you'll be glad you did. We can even subtract a 1/8lb from our prop calcs.
Good luck Guy and feel for you!
Hardest part is under the splash rail, That area needs to be mostly sanded and also at the chine. I'll have to put a thin coat of graphic to get my line back :(
Yep, like I have to do with mine
CL, you know I was thinking that maybe some sort of steamer (like they use for wall paper) might work.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:57 pm
by blindmullet
Nice looking dog... :wink:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:06 pm
by Larry B
Dang thats a cute dog :D

Got a question? What is the best grit sandpaper to sand the primer before putting on the sterling topcoat?? Don't want it to blow off like the s3 :help: I think I used about 120 for the s3, but seems like I remember 320 for the sterling??? Thats smooth and for sure the s3 would peel off of that.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:27 pm
by TomW
Larry there is a whole tutorial on applying the Sterling in the How To's. From sanding to mixing to applying it and how long to wait between coats. This is it: http://www.bateau2.com/howto/sterling_roll_tip.php

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:49 pm
by Dog Fish
I sure feel bad for ya Larry, that's a dame shame. After seeing this and Richards paint problems I will stay clear of S3. Lots of hard work down the drain.
I agree very cool looking Dog :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:29 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Larry there is a whole tutorial on applying the Sterling in the How To's. From sanding to mixing to applying it and how long to wait between coats. This is it: http://www.bateau2.com/howto/sterling_roll_tip.php
Thanks Tom, you know I thought I had read all the way threw that how to info, but somehow I missed that sanding part :doh: Looks like 320 it is :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:07 am
by Larry B
Dang it's hard to make up your mind on a name. Thought I had it all figured out with "FLOATIN' DREAMS" then I changed the color of the boat to Yellow, it's brighter than in the picture :wink: And thought ok need a different name and came up with "OLD YELLER" My favorite movie of all time :D I'm not very creative when it comes to this stuff, but the name is right on, I'm Old, I Yell a lot, and my boat is Yeller.
So anyway, good, bad or ugly what do you ya'll think??? Appreciate all comments, a bad comment will still get you a ride on my boat :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:11 am
by Cracker Larry
Not bad 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:19 am
by tech_support
Larry B wrote:Dang thats a cute dog :D

Got a question? What is the best grit sandpaper to sand the primer before putting on the sterling topcoat?? Don't want it to blow off like the s3 :help: I think I used about 120 for the s3, but seems like I remember 320 for the sterling??? Thats smooth and for sure the s3 would peel off of that.

I have used 320 to rough up the sterling before the next coat, and it works fine. For sanding the S3 primer, I would go with a slightly heavier grit (220). I have used 320 on the priner with no problem on 5 boats, but there are concerns that if you sand your primer so that it shines, then there may not be enough tooth for the paint to adherer. Like I said, I haven't ever had the problem, but its safer to leave some tooth for the paint.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:49 pm
by TomW
Dang Larry, Ol' Yeller is pretty! 8) Sure would stand out at the docks. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:10 pm
by sitandfish
TomW wrote:Dang Larry, Ol' Yeller is pretty! 8) Sure would stand out at the docks. :D
Wouldn't an Old Yeller be RED in the face? :doh: He hasn't even posted this picture, has he?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:15 pm
by Larry B
sitandfish wrote:
TomW wrote:Dang Larry, Ol' Yeller is pretty! 8) Sure would stand out at the docks. :D
Wouldn't an Old Yeller be RED in the face? :doh: He hasn't even posted this picture, has he?
Go back a page :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:47 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:
sitandfish wrote:
TomW wrote:Dang Larry, Ol' Yeller is pretty! 8) Sure would stand out at the docks. :D
Wouldn't an Old Yeller be RED in the face? :doh: He hasn't even posted this picture, has he?
Go back a page :D
Never thought I would have missed one of your posts... :oops:

I would just go with the "Ol' Yellow" to make the tribute direct. I've known lots of "Old Yellers" and you just don't make the cut. :D You already know that I like this boat being yellow. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:53 pm
by cape man
I like the name!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:19 am
by macs
I like it too. It's got character :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:58 pm
by Larry B
Well, Old Yeller is coming along :D I've about got the cooler in front of the console finished. When I put the top on the cooler that will be the last piece to glue on :D Then it's just a bit more glass on the gunwales and some fairing and paint :D Old Yeller is getting close to launch :D :D :D Either this week or next I'm taking her in to get her numbers :D Dang I'm getting excited :D This is whats it's all about :D
Anyway a couple of pictures:
This is the picture with the block for the drain
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After I fair the inside of the cooler I'll glue the LAST PIECE OF WOOD ON :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:19 pm
by cape man
Larry that is going to be nice! Major step that last piece of glue!

Home stretch!

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:32 am
by Larry B
YIPPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last piece of wood was glued on yesterday and taped today, WOW what a milestone and great feeling. I've also been fairing as I went along and have about 95% of fairing done. Man I feel good today :D :D :D :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:35 am
by Cracker Larry
Very cool Larry, it's all downhill from here 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:22 pm
by cape man
Whooo hooo!

Send us (i.e. post) a wide shot of the whole boat as she sits today.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:33 pm
by Larry B
Here you go Craig:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:27 pm
by Brettitt41
Looks great Larry. Very nice looking build

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:12 pm
by Dog Fish
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:16 pm
by steve292
Very nice 8) Good feeling isn't it.
Steve

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:46 am
by TomW
What did you end up with a width of your console Larry? It looks like the perfect size for your boat! 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:01 am
by majorgator
I'm envious of your progress :wink: :wink: Think I'm gonna go do some taping before Thanksgiving festivities begin :D :D

seth

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:13 am
by Larry B
TomW wrote:What did you end up with a width of your console Larry? It looks like the perfect size for your boat! 8)
Tom, the base is 26.5" wide and narrows to 24" wide at the top. It's a bit cramped for everything I'm putting in it, but it will all fit. Two group 27 batteries in the base of it and a ice chest in the front seat, I'll post more pictures when I get it faired and primed.

To all who have commented and complimented THANKS :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:14 am
by topwater
Nice job :!: Love the side decks and the splash rails 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:36 am
by wegcagle
Great job Larry! She's beautiful 8)

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:24 pm
by cape man
Nice!!! Soon. Soon.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:00 pm
by gstanfield
Looking good pard, you'll be ready to take me fishing in no time :D 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:40 am
by sideslippa
I was just checking out some of your build photos...coming along nicely, the finish line is not too far away. Keep up the nice work

regards Slippa.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:28 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for all the compliments :D
Sorry but I've got her back on the trailer and was just too proud not to show some more pictures. I even took it down the road for a test ride :D Yep I was pretty proud looking back at the boat that I built (building) riding down the road on the trailer I built :D Hope everything was going to hold together :wink: With her up high I'm able to see the spray rail up close and dang I have to do more fairing on it, no one would probably notice but I know it needs more fairing so it will get more fairing. Heck it will only set me back a few days and with winter set in (32 degrees this morning) coldest Thanksgiving in over 70 years, probably the ozone letting the heat out :wink: Anyway she will go to Fish and Game on Monday to get her numbers and then it's just a bit more fairing and paint and hardware. No hurry this time of year, I've got at least 3 months before it starts getting hot again.
so here are some pictures of her on the trailer. Trailer is 99.9% finished.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:53 pm
by gstanfield
Definitely something to be proud of :D Keep up the great work 8)

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:18 pm
by JohnC
Hey Larry,
Don't worry about winter coming, I remember being on Bartlett Lake on Christmas Day several years ago (70 degrees and sunny) and had a great time. Good luck with Fish & Game, I hope they are faster than AZ DMV! :roll: :D Boat looks great and so does the trailer!
John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:47 pm
by Larry B
JohnC wrote:Hey Larry,
Don't worry about winter coming, I remember being on Bartlett Lake on Christmas Day several years ago (70 degrees and sunny) and had a great time. Good luck with Fish & Game, I hope they are faster than AZ DMV! :roll: :D Boat looks great and so does the trailer!
John
John, Thanks,
Yea I was on Bartlett a few weeks ago in my FL14. Spent the night fishing for Flatheads. a couple runs thats all, froze my arse off. Curled up in my sleeping bag and told the guy I was with, if my clicker goes off, either reel in the fish or cut the line, I ain't coming out of my sleeping bag and I didn't until the sun came up, then back to shore and home to a hot shower :D
Fish and Game are pretty good, just take the boat in, they come out and measure it, go back inside and pay about 20 something dollars and your on your way :D Anyway thats how it went with my FL14 :D Pretty much the same with the trailer at MVD, no big deal In and Out in about a hour. :D
Larry

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:35 pm
by Fonda@kauai
Looks great :D :D :D Man I go away for a month and she's almost done :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:13 am
by chicagoross
Just noticed the splash rails - serious! That ought to cut down the splash! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:42 am
by Larry B
chicagoross wrote:Just noticed the splash rails - serious! That ought to cut down the splash! :D
I'm hoping it does, kind of an experment for C Larry and Craig. If they work I know a easier way to do it though :doh: These were a lot of work and still ain't done because of some fairing that needs to be done to the top of them. Hope I never have to change them as that would be way too much work :help:
Looks great Man I go away for a month and she's almost done
Fonda, she is getting close for sure :D
Definitely something to be proud of Keep up the great work
Thanks George :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:25 am
by Larry B
Well, went to Game and Fish this morning to get her Registered :D Took about 20 minutes and 30 bucks later had my Hull Id # and my Registration Numbers. So now just need to finish her and she is legal to go on the water :D
Sure was nice to get all the paper work out of the way, Here in AZ you have to go to MVD for the trailer and Game and Fish for the Boat :doh:
He measured her and decided to call her 19 feet :doh: Registration is the same so not a problem. Thats about all they do is measure it, ask the type of material used, and if it was a kit or plans, ask me what color I was going to paint it, did the paper work and I was GONE :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:46 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Larry, your boat is looking great 8) Congratulations on getting her registered, that is a huge step in the build process. Continued good luck with your build :) Btw, that is a first class trailer too 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:20 am
by cape man
I think that's the step when you really realize that you built a boat! Fantastic Larry!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:55 am
by TomW
Congrats Larry, a great point to get to! 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:44 am
by Larry B
Thanks Guys, I've been going over the boat with a fine tooth comb and keep finding little spots that need a bit of quick fair :wink: But should be putting on my first coat of primer by this weekend, at which time I'm sure I'll find lots of missed places that need quick fair :doh: It's sure going to be nice to get that primer color on her. I'll do the inside first, and then move to outside to finish getting the small bits of S3 paint off the hull. Then more primer and on to the Sterling :D
I'm looking for Sterling Clause for Christmas, Man I'm getting excited, I keep going back and forth to C Larrys and Capemans launch's, Can't wait till I can post a picture like this one:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:41 pm
by gstanfield
If you need a camera man for the launch let me know. If possible I'd drive down just to see her splash (and catch some big cats of course) :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:55 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:If you need a camera man for the launch let me know. If possible I'd drive down just to see her splash (and catch some big cats of course) :D
Man, your looking for any excuse you can to get out of that cold weather aren't you???? :wink: But it's been cold here also, had to turn on the heat in the shop for a couple minutes this morning as the temp was only 60 degrees inside 8O Lows have been getting down to the low 40's :help: But highs should be back up into the mid 70's by tomorrow :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:40 pm
by gstanfield
I don't need much excuse to leave when the temps are in the negative for highs :cry:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:59 pm
by Larry B
Well been fitting the hatchs I made in the bow. They ain't perfect, but I called Sam down in Georgia and he said they looked good from where he was :lol: So I said good enuff. Although I will work on them a bit more but wanted to show a picture of how they look:
This is looking from the Helm.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:20 pm
by TomW
Man getting outside help now. Is that kosher in Denmark. Have to think about that one. Even if he has a beautiful coat! :lol:

Looking good Larry! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:34 am
by cape man
I really like those small lockers under the gunwales. Know it was hard to make the covers, but that is slick as s%`&!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:49 am
by wegcagle
Nice work Larry. Those lockers look good from here 8)

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:42 am
by JohnC
Hey Larry,
If Sam says you're OK then you're good to go! BTW does Sam charge by the hour or flat fee? :D Maybe Cracker Larry is missing out on a way to fund his next build.
John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:49 pm
by Cracker Larry
Sam does some occasional outside consulting by the hour, but he's not available for long term projects. Somebody has to keep me straight around here :lol:

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He pays close attention to details

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He's had some hatch experience too

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Fuel tanks, consoles, you name it, Sam can do it :lol:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:09 pm
by JamesT
You cant help but smile :D after that. Too cool. 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:14 pm
by Joe H
At my age I would need Sam's help to sniff out what I put in all those lockers, I know I would forget! :help:

They look Great Larry.

Joe H

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:23 pm
by sitandfish
Hard to get more "custom" than this! 8)
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:31 pm
by TomW
Dang Larry your raising the rope on the OD18 build level again. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:29 pm
by Dougster
Got so tickled at those pics I had to show the wife. We both got laughing at old Sam.

Respects Mr. Sam Dougster

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:09 pm
by Cracker Larry
Respects Mr. Sam Dougster
Sam says thanks to ya Dougster :D He's been keeping an eye on yours too..

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:39 pm
by BassMunn
Larry boat is looking really nice. Those gunwale lockers are a great idea :idea:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:50 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for all the great comments guys :D

Sam thanks for taking a look a my lockers :wink: Don't know where you were when I put that other paint on the hull and had to take it all off :doh: Still sanding that mess :help:

TomW, the little bit I did on my OD sure hasn't even come close to the bar set by others here. I'm just going to keep sanding and fairing so hopefully she looks much better than a store bought one. I know for sure she's built better than store bought. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:15 pm
by Cracker Larry
Don't know where you were when I put that other paint on the hull and had to take it all off :doh: Still sanding that mess :help:
Sam says he tried to tell ya about that paint :lol:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:20 pm
by cape man
Show Off(s)! :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:58 pm
by Larry B
Well, ya'll probably didn't even notice, but I've been gone for about month. I've been moving and just now today I finally got internet. Been using my wifes DroidX to check my email, but signal is weak out here where we moved so couldn't get online. The OD18 is just the same as a month ago :( Moved out of my nice shop into a oversized 3 car garage so still have room to build, just not what I had. House prices are so low we couldn't afford not to buy another one. This one is on two acres, the other one had 1 acre. House is a lot nicer and the wife is Very Happy :D I'll post up some pictures when I get time. Did I mention I hate moving :x :x :x But I'll have to admit I really like the new location and house. :D
So I'll post some pictures of the boat when I get her primed. Hope to do that next week.
Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:08 pm
by Cracker Larry
I was wondering what happened to you! Welcome back.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:10 pm
by TomW
LB welcome back knew you were moving and that is always a PIA so glad your back. Don't know what your using for web service but if your like me about the only thing I have is Broadband by the local provider. It's Sh***t by anyone else.

Take care and let all those oh so sore muscles recover from moving before starting back in on the boat! :lol: :lol:

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:14 pm
by gstanfield
Wait a minute..you've been gone?? :? We never missed you :lol: :lol:

Just kidding pard, it has been one of those long awkward silences for a month now :wink:

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:20 pm
by cape man
Larry,

Don't listen to them...I missed you.

2 acres...Nice!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:11 pm
by Larry B
cape man wrote:Larry,

Don't listen to them...I missed you.

2 acres...Nice!
Thats good to know Craig :D I feel better already. Now I've got to get up some movtivation and finish my boat. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:25 pm
by TomW
Well Larry with two acres we'll soon see a boat building building and storage area. Places to dress all those animals you can shoot in the fall and clean all those fish you can catch in that new boat. :D :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:16 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Well Larry with two acres we'll soon see a boat building building and storage area. Places to dress all those animals you can shoot in the fall and clean all those fish you can catch in that new boat. :D :lol:
Tom, I've built two shops at different locations in my life and don't know if I've got another one in me :| As far as dressing the animals, I quit hunting years ago, found out if you don't kill one you don't have to dress him out :wink: Kinda gettin like that with fish also, CPR most of them, but I do keep some to eat. Now I've just got to finish my boat, this dang move took the wind out of my sail but I'm getting it back and should be back to work on the boat tomorrow :D Need to go fishing too :D but it's been cold here, today was nice though got to 70, and should get to the mid 70's this coming week, low's are still cold, low 40's at night and in the morning.
btw, the two acres is just to keep the neighbors at bay :wink: I like my privacy.
Roscoe my dog was close to being coyote food the other morning :help: We had some friends over she said: look at all those dogs, My wife looked and said: those arent' dogs those are coyote's, and she ran outside just as one was about to take down my dog. They had already started to circle him and if my wife hadn't gone out, he'd be a gonner. Usually only see maybe two at a time, this time was close to ten :help: My wife said they were only inchs from taking him down. When the wife ran out, Roscoe turned around and started chashing them because now he had back up. Old Roscoe ain't too smart :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:29 pm
by Prarie Dog
Larry, had the same trouble in my neighborhood with Coyotes, had to keep the thunderstick handy and train a few. With a little encouragement got the neighbors involved, it's probably been a year since I've seen one. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:59 am
by Bowmovement
May need to dust off the 30-06 and get some target practice. Coyotes are a nuisance and dangerous. Just kill and discard. Sounds bad but think about the safety of your family. Not sure if you have small grandchildren or friends but I coyote will stalk them too. I'd shoot everyone that came on the property if I were you. I normally dont kill anything unless its gonna be eaten. Learned that the hard way. Boiled Blue Jay taste like crap. Dad made me eat after I shot in the back yard with my BB gun as a child. Having said that, safety trumps all. Good luck with the Coyotes.

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:17 pm
by Cracker Larry
We have them bad too. When we used to have chickens and turkeys we had a terrible time with them and I trapped them hard and heavy for about 5 years. They are sneaky critters and real difficult to catch in a trap. Mean too once you get one in the trap 8O They are mostly nocturnal which makes them hard to hunt. Most of the ones killed here are done by running them with hounds, but there are a lot of guys who night hunt them using predator calls or staking out a rabbit (don't tell PETA!)

There is a big market for them live, used for stocking game pens and training dogs. Not sure what they are going for now but I used to get $50-100 each. In our area there are folks who will come trap your yotes for free if they get to keep them.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:53 pm
by gstanfield
Around here the pelts sell for $20 each and in some places $50 just for the dead pelt. The Government used to buy them around here, not sure anymore. Where I live we have an infestation of deer more than anything. My garden plot is 50x100 and has a 10 ft fence all around to keep the stinking mule deer out. It's not uncommon to walk outside and there's 20 to 30+ Mulies in my yard. They like to sleep just outside my daughter's room too which is cool to the girls :D

I've threatened to leave a trail of corn into my shop and be waiting inside for them. I'm not an advocate of poaching, but my family will never go hundry either :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:57 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:
I've threatened to leave a trail of corn into my shop and be waiting inside for them. I'm not an advocate of poaching, but my family will never go hundry either :wink:
I'm going to call the LEO's on you :lol: :D :lol: :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:12 pm
by gstanfield
:lol: We have this policy that goes something like this: "think it, feel it, just don't do it!" It's OK to want to do something as long as you don't cross that line. Then again like I said before, if my family was going hungry I couldn't give a rats >>> about LEO's at that point :wink:

Oh yeah, enough excuses of moving and such, time to finish that boat so we can go fishing 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:17 pm
by Larry B
George, I actually did some sanding on it today. Going to try to have primer on the inside this weekend or early next week. Then just saving a bit of money for my Sterling Paint :help: I believe the only thing I have left to buy other than the paint is the rubrail. Probably some small items but nothing big. OHHHH Wait a minute, I still have to buy a prop :doh: :roll:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:23 pm
by TomW
We can get you a prop a a decent price when we run the final prop calc numbers Larry. Figure on around $250-300 :cry: :lol: Or much less if you want to go aluminum. 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:26 pm
by gstanfield
Well good going there pard, glad to see you got some work done on it. Seems like you're almost there although a prop and some sterling are both big items. You'll have her fishing before my lakes thaw out I'm certain 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:31 pm
by Larry B
You'll have her fishing before my lakes thaw out I'm certain
That would be the plan :D
We can get you a prop a a decent price when we run the final prop calc numbers Larry. Figure on around $250-300 Or much less if you want to go aluminum.
Tom, I've thought about a aluminum, but would really like to get it dialed in on a stainless, then maybe run the aluminum when I'm in certain lakes that have alot of crap and rocks to hit. There are a lot of submerged trees and then lot's of rocks in the shallows.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:12 pm
by TomW
We can do that then. Dial it in for the SS and get a less expensive aluminum whey you want to run it. Not a problem.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:37 pm
by Larry B
Well I thought it was pretty good until I put primer on it :doh: I've got a bunch of pin holes where the weave wasn't filled good enough.
Is quick fair the best thing to use to fill these spots? or I'm open for suggestions :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:25 pm
by TomW
Yep QF is the answer for those loverly little things. You can put it right over the primer.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:17 pm
by Larry B
Thanks Tom, thats what I figured, but just wanted to be sure :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:13 pm
by Larry B
Man what a day :help: Just when you think you've done everything you can do and now it's going to go smooth the paint, WRONG, your just starting a new phase of the build :doh: Really thought this was going to be a bit easier than the other parts WRONG AGAIN, But it's going to take what it takes, if I see a pin hole it will get filled and sanded. I can see this stage of the build is going to take awhile though. Sure be nice when I get her all primed and sanded ready for the final coat :D If I don't need to buy more primer, I should have her ready by end of next week (fingers crossed) Going to Panama City for a reunion Feb 10th, but be back on the 14th to continue. It sucked having to take a month off of the build, but I sure made a lot of points with the wife :D 8)
Anyway just rambling on.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:30 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:We can get you a prop a a decent price when we run the final prop calc numbers Larry. Figure on around $250-300 :cry: :lol: Or much less if you want to go aluminum. 8O
Tom, been trying to email you?? Haven't heard back? You getting my emails?? It's Prop Related :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:02 pm
by TomW
Larry you won't believe this it just came through now. I've been out most of the day and hadn't checked e-mail but when you said you had sent me one I checked it. Your one of 1/31 just came through. :help: It wasn't there last night when I checked them last evening. WTH The other one you sent is also there.

I'll get back to you soonest.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:01 pm
by TomW
Larry I don't know what the heck is going on with the e-mail. But go for that prop if it is still available. Sorry for getting back to you so slow. :x My calcs showed a 13.5 x 16.5 so this will be fine if your loaded heavier or want a faster hole shot. Hope you can still get it. :D Also like you say it will make a good place to start and be a good second prop. 8)

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 am
by Larry B
Tom, I've got a email into him. If I can get it, it might also be a good one to put into the pool of props and start off Richards idea of having props for others to use while getting there boats dialed in. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:05 pm
by Larry B
Man it's hard painting the underside of the gunwales :help: Probably be easier if I was smaller, but I ain't :wink: Getting close to having the primer on, just keep finding more and more pin holes, fill prime and bam more pin holes, I'm going to call it good enough pretty soon, it's getting down to where I almost need a magnifying glass to find them :help: Unless of course if you lay on your back and look under the gunwales. But when I'm on my back on the deck I'll be asleep anyway :D
So anyway getting closer by the day. :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:42 am
by Larry B
I found a prop on craigs list and bought it for a good price. Looks to be in great shape except for a small dent in one blade. Just wondering if it will affect performance much or if I should try to get it out?

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:52 am
by Cracker Larry
Not only will it affect performance, it is out of balance and will trash the gear case seals in short order, and the bearings supporting the prop shaft. You can't fix it with a hammer, it needs to go to a machine shop to get balanced.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:36 am
by Aripeka Angler
Hey Larry, great to see you are back and working on the boat again :)

Pardon me for being ADD here, I was going to chime in on your Taco rubrail. I used the same rubrail that you have purchased. If you buy more screws, get the ones with the oversized truss head. The head is actually wider and lower in profile than a regular screw. I tried a few regular screws when I repainted my boat, but I was much happier with the ones that came in the kit.

Beware of over-tightening the screws, this will cause the bumps and puckers in the rubber. On mine, every time I really cranked down on a screw, the opening for the rope would dogknot down on the screw driver tip. Spread the opening in rubrail with your fingers or a block of wood close to where you are driving the screw. The big, fat screw heads also like to ding the lips on the rail if you don't drive the screws straight. Just get 'em good and snug, the glue will do the rest.

I also would suggest a round shank driver bit. The first couple that I drove in dinged the lips on the rail due to my screwdriver bit shank being hex-shaped. I think the insert magnet tip thingys are probably too fat to get in there also. One last thing, get some help :help: I put it on mostly by myself when I built the boat and with a helper when I repainted. Much easier with two :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:20 pm
by Larry B
Thanks CLarry and Richard,
I guess now that I need to get the prop balance and repaired maybe not such a good deaL :doh: Oh well live and learn and maybe I'll just keep it for a spare in an emergency and need to get home.
Richard, Yes I was going to order the truss heads. Thanks for the heads up on the round shank, all mine are hex also. Might try the round magnetic holder but like you said might be to large.
Oh well another day another problem.

And to top it off, Sterling doesn't make the color I wanted to paint my boat anymore. :cry: :cry:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:29 pm
by Aripeka Angler
You are certainly welcome :) Hey, I sent you an email unrelated to the rubrail or the propeller...

Edit...
And to top it off, Sterling doesn't make the color I wanted to paint my boat anymore.
I would call Joel, he may be able to get it custom mixed.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:04 pm
by JohnC
Hey Larry,
I second (or third) getting the prop repaired at a prop shop. Too much wear and tear on the lower unit if you don't. We always kept a spare prop (already repaired) and changed props at the first sign of damage to the prop in use (except one time when my father hit some Muskoka granite on Georgian Bay, but that's another story :( :oops: )
John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:13 pm
by cape man
Larry,

Shouldn't cost much to get that prop rebalanced. Let us know what they want, and maybe it will be cheaper to send it down here.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:07 pm
by Cracker Larry
The last stainless one I had straightened, balanced, and re-hubbed cost $35. You will want to have a new friction hub pressed in also. When a stainless prop takes a lick like that, chances are real good that the hub may start to slip. Get it all done at once.
maybe it will be cheaper to send it down here.
Same offer here, we've got a great prop shop.
We always kept a spare prop (already repaired) and changed props at the first sign of damage to the prop in use
When I fished every day I always kept 3 props. One on the engine, one for a spare, and one in the shop. Always had one in the shop :lol: I do better now and get by with 2. I don't go out without a spare prop, you ain't going to paddle that OD18 :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:28 pm
by Larry B
CL, thats a lot better than here. Would I ship direct to you? or to the shop? Makes no difference to me?
Really appreciate that offer CLarry and Craig. At least it will get done right. I'm hoping to be close with this prop and then buy the right one when I'm dialing it in. But this will make a great spare.
Yea CLarry ain't gonna be no rowing this boat for sure :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:24 pm
by Larry B
Well as usuall another problem. Unless I'm missing something I don't think I want to drill holes where they need to be to put on the hydrofoil :doh: Look at the picture and let me know what ya'll think?
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And also as I'm new to this, could someone tell me if this is right? The prop is only about 3/16" from the cavatation plate? Is this correct or should I have a smaller prop. This one is 13 3/4"

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:40 pm
by Uncle D
I don't think you need to worry about the clearance as long as the prop isn't hitting anything.
If it were me I'd wait for the hydro-foil until you get the trim tab set. I'm not sure by the photo what concern is with it anyway. :doh: But if you don't want to use it you might think of going with trim tabs.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:52 pm
by Larry B
Uncle D wrote:I don't think you need to worry about the clearance as long as the prop isn't hitting anything.
If it were me I'd wait for the hydro-foil until you get the trim tab set. I'm not sure by the photo what concern is with it anyway. :doh: But if you don't want to use it you might think of going with trim tabs.
Thanks Uncle D, Yes as I ponder a bit I'm thinking trim tabs might be a better choice. I think I'll run it and see how it does and then maybe use the trim tabs. My concern is I would be drilling very close to the edge of the cavitation plate and very close to the trim tab.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:24 pm
by Cracker Larry
Dang, that's a big fat trim tab! No advice from me whether to drill it or not. It does look close, I'll let you make that call, think I'd wait.
Would I ship direct to you? or to the shop? Makes no difference to me
It would probably be more efficient to send it directly to them. This is who I've used all my life. They prop everything from outboards to container ships. http://www.champmach.com/

It does seem like you could find one closer, maybe on the Texas coast, but these guys will do a good job for sure.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:20 am
by topwater
There are other foil company's out there that you dont have to drill the cavatation plate.
I can't think of the names, check cabelas on line i mite have seen them there.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:46 pm
by TomW
The Stingray is fine lot's of them have been drilled and added. Stingray has two that don't require drilling now. Check them out. Don't worry about the 1/4" of clearance for the prop that's normal. Sent you an e-mail.

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm
by macs
I read several on line reviews of the "no bolt on" type when I was looking and they were all bad. They all said the thing fell off 8O Don't know if they were installed correctly. I have the same one Cl has and it works great.

Just my 2 cents

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:09 pm
by Cracker Larry
I read several on line reviews of the "no bolt on" type when I was looking and they were all bad. They all said the thing fell off
Same here. There are many reports of them coming off.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:34 pm
by TomW
Yep bolt ons have been around for what Larry 20-30 years. :) Can't see that they can be any worse now than then.

Maybe a little touch of epoxy at the front edge that you can Dremel off if you go with a No Bolt on type on.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:33 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the input guys. I'm going to return it to Cabelas tomorrow. I'm not going to drill holes that close to the trim tab and have something break. I'll see how it does without one and if need be, I'll maybe put on some trim tabs. I also looked into the ones that require no drilling and found mostly bad reviews. I'll keep ya'll updated :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:41 pm
by gstanfield
Wise choice I think. 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:00 pm
by Cracker Larry
A consensus :D Or is that a quorum :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:08 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:A consensus :D Or is that a quorum :lol:
I'd say consensus :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:58 am
by Jason S
Now not to be mean spirited here because Cracker Larry is VERY well respected. But I am going to say I totally disagree with him here.

Run that prop just the way it is. It will not be out of balance from that. For it to be out of balance you need to have removed mass from that particular blade. It may not be optimum. The prop is dinged but really not dinged that bad. DO NOT try and beat it out or anything goofy you could ruin the blade.

But... Here is my reasoning. I run a 15 1/2" X 18P prop on a yamaha F150 and an aluminum hull. I ding the crap out of my Polished Stainless props all the time. I beach load and launch. Part of the business. SOmetimes it is rough and I can not come in on the kicker for control and it happens. Yup I get them fixed (usually at the end of season unless it is just too bad). But I also know the optimum prop for my boat.

Take that prop out when you get the boat running. Break in your motor through what ever the break in phase may be. When you are allowed full RPM's figure out if you are in the ball park on the pitch. If you are great. Get it balanced, polished and a new hub and good to go. If not then you can do it all at once and include a repitch or getting some more or removing some cup from the prop.

But on a side note. I am running a prop that is 3/4" larger than Yamaha recommends and mine is not that close to the cavitation plate. You may not have a prop that is even close for your motor. Not sure but I know it is tighter than any boat or motor I have owned.

2nd SIde Note. Why do you feel you need a planing plate. Try it without and if you need it. I think they are bandaids. The motors trip and prop should carry the load on thier own. With that much prop you should be fine. Most often they are used as a band aid for a badly balanced boat or not enough motor on a boat. Properly set up the plate is not even in the water. My cavitation plate on plane is aout 1" out of the water.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:01 am
by Aripeka Angler
Hey Larry, before you go to Cabela's, check this out...


http://www.bobsmachine.com/Products/tra ... ilizer.cfm


I had one on my last Milwaukee vibrator and it worked like a charm. Improved the tracking and killed the porpoising too. It blended in nice with the white paint as well. I think I can find a picture somewhere....

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:10 am
by Larry B
Aripeka Angler wrote:Hey Larry, before you go to Cabela's, check this out...


http://www.bobsmachine.com/Products/tra ... ilizer.cfm


I had one on my last Milwaukee vibrator and it worked like a charm. Improved the tracking and killed the porpoising too. It blended in nice with the white paint as well. I think I can find a picture somewhere....
Richard, the biggest problem is those to rear bolts? Look at the picture I posted with the BIG trim tab. And look at this picture those two rear bolts would go right thru the tab :doh:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:19 am
by Aripeka Angler
Larry, I would give them a call and tell them what kind of motor you have. The guys at Bob's are good, real good. They may have something that will work with your Etec motor. Just a thought...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:29 am
by Cracker Larry
Now not to be mean spirited here because Cracker Larry is VERY well respected. But I am going to say I totally disagree with him here.
That's OK Jason :lol: Lots of people do.
Run that prop just the way it is. It will not be out of balance from that. For it to be out of balance you need to have removed mass from that particular blade.
I still disagree with that. Moving the mass will also change the balance. Try sliding a tire weight a little bit on a wheel as an example. You aren't removing mass, just relocating it. I wouldn't risk the seals in a brand new gear case myself, I've seen a lot of them damaged. It may even void the warranty to run it with a bent prop. My reasoning is a $50 prop repair versus a $2000 gear case. Go with what you're comfortable with, but I wouldn't do it.
But on a side note. I am running a prop that is 3/4" larger than Yamaha recommends and mine is not that close to the cavitation plate. You may not have a prop that is even close for your motor. Not sure but I know it is tighter than any boat or motor I have owned.
Good eye. I saw that myself and thought "self, that prop looks too big for that engine" :? It's tighter than any I've ever seen. LarryB, are you sure that's the right diameter prop?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:40 pm
by Larry B
I still disagree with that. Moving the mass will also change the balance. Try sliding a tire weight a little bit on a wheel as an example. You aren't removing mass, just relocating it. I wouldn't risk the seals in a brand new gear case myself, I've seen a lot of them damaged. It may even void the warranty to run it with a bent prop. My reasoning is a $50 prop repair versus a $2000 gear case. Go with what you're comfortable with, but I wouldn't do it.

CLarry, your a bit incorrect on the analogy of the prop and the tire weight. If you took a small piece of the tire weight and moved it from the from the front of the wheel to the back of the wheel in the same rotational place on the wheel there would be no effect. On the prop, if you took the amount of the dent and moved it in a rotational direction or placed it on one of the other blades that would put it out of balance. But without having the prop checked I will never know? But I know what your trying to say, (don't run a bent prop :wink: )


Good eye. I saw that myself and thought "self, that prop looks too big for that engine" :? It's tighter than any I've ever seen. LarryB, are you sure that's the right diameter prop?
I'm still doing some searching on this part, this is the only picture on the net I've been able to come up with. This guy is running a 13 7/8 on a 60 etec, the one I showed you on mine is 13 3/4 so this one would be 1/16" closer
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:02 pm
by Prarie Dog
Larry B wrote:CLarry, your a bit incorrect on the analogy of the prop and the tire weight. If you took a small piece of the tire weight and moved it from the from the front of the wheel to the back of the wheel in the same rotational place on the wheel there would be no effect. On the prop, if you took the amount of the dent and moved it in a rotational direction or placed it on one of the other blades that would put it out of balance. But without having the prop checked I will never know? But I know what your trying to say, (don't run a bent prop :wink: )
Larry, your example of moving the wheel weight from the front of the tire to the back of the tire is incorrect. Moving the weight will not effect the static balance but it will effect the dynamic balance. Go by a tire store and ask the guy running the wheel balancer to show you. Looking at your prop I would at the least have the balance checked, but having said that, that blade looks too close to your planer fin. I read an article somewhere that explained how close the props on trawler boats could be to the hull. In this article they had pics of hulls where the prop was too close. The paint was blasted off in the area closest to the tip and the writer said that it would knock the shaft bearings out. Water cannot be compressed, in your case, if the blade is trying to compress the water between the blade and the planer fin it could knock the bearings out of the prop shaft. I would research it carefully before I used it like that. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:12 pm
by Larry B
Prarie Dog wrote:Larry, your example of moving the wheel weight from the front of the tire to the back of the tire is incorrect. Moving the weight will not effect the static balance but it will effect the dynamic balance. Go by a tire store and ask the guy running the wheel balancer to show you. Looking at your prop I would at the least have the balance checked, but having said that, that blade looks too close to your planer fin. I read an article somewhere that explained how close the props on trawler boats could be to the hull. In this article they had pics of hulls where the prop was too close. The paint was blasted off in the area closest to the tip and the writer said that it would knock the shaft bearings out. Water cannot be compressed, in your case, if the blade is trying to compress the water between the blade and the planer fin it could knock the bearings out of the prop shaft. I would research it carefully before I used it like that. :D
Prarie dog, See seems I'm aways wrong so I guess my wife is always right :wink: Yep, you and CL are correct then, I didn't even think about the static or dynamic, Heck I'm from the old school when they put them on a bubble balancer :lol:

Yea, I'm doing some research now on the prop. Thats why I ask the question because it looked too close to me, but I'm new to this so I didn't know.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:17 pm
by Cracker Larry
The engine manual should say what the max diameter of the prop can be. Looks close to me.
I read an article somewhere that explained how close the props on trawler boats could be to the hull. In this article they had pics of hulls where the prop was too close. The paint was blasted off in the area closest to the tip and the writer said that it would knock the shaft bearings out.
Sure enough. I've seen holes water blasted completely through the hull above the prop tips.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:41 pm
by Larry B
Well I really appreciate everyones input here. Makes it easier to put all the info together and come up with a desision. I did talk to the dealer about the prop. He checked with the service dept and said that the clearence between the blade tip and cavation plate is fine :D
So with all that said, now thinking to run the prop as is just to see where my rpms are. If it turns out to be the correct prop I'll get it repaired before I use it anymore. If it's close, I'll get it repaired and use for a spare and If it's way off I'll just sell it :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:46 pm
by Prarie Dog
Larry B, I would seek independent conformation of what your dealer said. He may be right, I have my doubts. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:50 pm
by Larry B
Prarie Dog wrote:Larry B, I would seek independent conformation of what your dealer said. He may be right, I have my doubts. :D
I'm still doing other research, can't believe it's so hard to find that info on the net. It wasn't in my factory service manual :doh: Sounds like the Post Office ad, if it fits it ships :lol:
Be curious as the clearance on some of the motors here?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:59 pm
by Cracker Larry
I just measured mine. Exactly 1". Hard to believe the manual doesn't give prop size :doh: I told you to get a Yamaha :P (Just kidding of course)

Looking at Iboats.com it seems the most common diameter in stainless for that engine is 13 1/4"

http://boatpropellers.iboats.com/Evinru ... =988785837

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:32 pm
by TomW
LarryB I think your fine with the 13 3/4. Evinrude's own Viper is 13 7/8, all the other props I checked were from 13 1/4 to 13 3/4 both Evinrude and other brands. Do you have the brand and part number of that prop it should be stamped on the barrel of the prop.

Paul your example of the trawler doesn't really apply here. A trawlers prop is much larger and is an inboard prop under the ship with no where else for the water to go as it is pushed upward. With an outboard you only have the small antiventilation plate and your moving a lot less water.

While a prop is normally more than a 1/4" below the AV plate it's not unusual especially with performance props, like the Viper.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:42 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I just measured mine. Exactly 1". Hard to believe the manual doesn't give prop size :doh: I told you to get a Yamaha :P (Just kidding of course)

Looking at Iboats.com it seems the most common diameter in stainless for that engine is 13 1/4"

http://boatpropellers.iboats.com/Evinru ... =988785837
C Larry, looked at the link, and changed the pitch to 15 (thats what I have) and lot's of 13 3/4 in aluminum and one in ss.

http://boatpropellers.iboats.com/Evinru ... =988785837

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:06 pm
by Cracker Larry
What is the diameter of the prop you have?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:09 pm
by TomW
It's a 13 3/4 x 15 pitch, Larry.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:11 pm
by Cracker Larry
OK, that should be fine. They show some as large as a 14" for that engine. I'm just not used to seeing them so tight to the anti-ventillation plate. Never had a E-Tec either. That pitch should be just about right.
If it turns out to be the correct prop I'll get it repaired before I use it anymore. If it's close, I'll get it repaired and use for a spare and If it's way off I'll just sell it :D
The machine shop can also re-pitch them for a few dollars more :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:16 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:OK, that should be fine. They show some as large as a 14" for that engine. I'm just not used to seeing them so tight to the anti-ventillation plate. Never had a E-Tec either. That pitch should be just about right.
You will soon see one on a OD18, I'm hoping for good numbers unless I built a tank :wink: One thing I know, she will be purdy sitting back there. The white is going to match everything great.
My paint is on UPS and on it's way to me as I type :D :D Still have some primer to do on the inside.

How long is a good time to wait on the primer before applying sterling??

I think the reason the E-tec is so tight and close is they like to make things to a very close tolerance :wink: :lol: :D :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:19 pm
by AussieBoater
Larry B wrote:How long is a good time to wait on the primer before applying sterling??
As soon as you can sand it...
Larry B wrote:I think the reason the E-tec is so tight and close is they like to make things to a very close tolerance :wink: :lol: :D :lol:
Now that is cheeky!!! :roll: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:38 pm
by Cracker Larry
How long is a good time to wait on the primer before applying sterling??
Depending on your temps and humidity, I'd give it at least 1 week. Maybe 2. The primer is water based and if you don't let it dry real good it will give you trouble later.

Are you still going with the yellow paint 8)
I think the reason the E-tec is so tight and close is they like to make things to a very close tolerance
That's what they told us about the M16 :lol: Turns out the tolerances were so tight that they wouldn't work with a little sand and water :doh: Hope the Etech does better than that :P

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:45 pm
by Larry B
Are you still going with the yellow paint
Oh Yea :D If I didn't go with the yellow I'd have to change my boat name again (Old Yeller) btw, sterling doesn't make yellow paint anymore, they can't get the ingrediants for it. Had to get a different yellow than I wanted and I'll have to do some mixing, but yea it will be YELLOW. Pure white console, White Kiwigrip, Black rubrail, haven't decided on black or yellow on the spray rail yet.
Don't have a clue what it will look like, but I had to be different 8) :wink: And I will be seen on the lake :lol:
Got my windshield, damn good job they did, for less than I could have bought the plex for and had it shipped to me. Remember I live in the desert :o

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:50 pm
by Cracker Larry
Who did the windshield?

In the desert I'd give it a week. Can't wait to see that yellow 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:01 am
by Cracker Larry
I'm still pondering that prop :? This is another E-tech pic from another thread. It looks more like what I'm used to seeing, about 1" of clearance on it. This is a 115 but the clearance should still be about the same as on a 60 :?

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Don't have a clue what it will look like, but I had to be different
I'm building a fuchsia fishing pole :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:06 am
by Larry B
C Larry, I've had others get back to me, (some very experienced with e-tec) All say no problem with the prop so I'm going with it. :D
Waiting to see that fuchsia fishing pole :wink:
But it did get me to thinking, I'd like to make a fuchsia and a pink one and give them to my 2 grand daughters :D 8)

I noticed that boat is in Flordia, you guys might need that extra space so the gators don't get caught in your props :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:59 am
by Jason S
Cracker Larry wrote:OK, that should be fine. They show some as large as a 14" for that engine. I'm just not used to seeing them so tight to the anti-ventillation plate. Never had a E-Tec either. That pitch should be just about right.
If it turns out to be the correct prop I'll get it repaired before I use it anymore. If it's close, I'll get it repaired and use for a spare and If it's way off I'll just sell it :D
The machine shop can also re-pitch them for a few dollars more :wink:

That's the reason I said to wait most of all. Stainless Props can be re-pitched but the more they are the weaker they become. Some shops will not do much more than general repairs on stainless props. Just add or remove cup. But if you find one that does unless you are with in an inch of pitch where you are supposed to be you will want a new prop then. BUT Cup or lack there of is an option also.

Larry when your motor is broken in do the following to figure out if you have the right prop.

Take your boat where you are going to run it (preferably the same water i.e. salt or not as boats float differently in them, and no current).

Trim that thing all the way against the transom. When you do figure out your minimum planing speed and document the RPM and speed. Then every even 500 RPM document your speed. All the way trimmed in till you reach maximum RPM's and speed with it trimmed in. When you reach that point document that. Then trim out and find your maximum speed and acompaning RPM. Take this info. Your prop to a good prop shop and give them the prop and info along with what motor, and what general type hull you have. They will get you there. Or they will recommend the prop to get you there.

Powertech Props are AWSOME to deal with. Andy at Shipyard Island Marine in Wisconsin for mail order also.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:06 am
by Jason S
As to wanting to run a plate.

Really wait till you get the boat in the water. Loaded like your gonna run it. Propped right. Motor brocken in and try it.

In my humble, and lots of other guys experience they are a poor solution to a workable problem. Usually given the right motor and boat with a CORRECT prop you have no need for one of those. The prop that is correct meaning the correct blade style, of the correct pitch, with the correct diameter you do not need it. You need the prop to carry the boat and load.

Like stated above mine is out of the water on step. I run and "offshore" style blade with a heavy cup as my boat is bigger than yours. But my last 16 footer with a 50HP did not need one either when I found the right prop. Then I had to figure out what to do with the holes I drilled in my motor.

Finding the cirrect height for mounting your motor is way more important. I run a 4" manual jack plate on an offshore style boat with a bracket for this reason. Set right my cavitation plate is about an inch out of the water. That is my set it and forget it. I can pick up another 2-3 MPH jacking it a little higher. I pick up 150 RPMs that way. But it will blow out in turns and is harder on plane.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:01 am
by Larry B
Thanks Jason,
The E-tecs say they don't need a breakin period. They are programed to use extra oil for the first 2 hours above 2000 rpm. They are run at the factory for 13 minutes at various rpm's including WOT. I'm from old school and will probably take it a bit easy for the first couple hours, but of course get it above the 2000 rpm. Probably be able to dial in the prop as it won't be prolonged WOT for that period.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:25 am
by Steven
Larry B wrote:
Cracker Larry wrote:OK, that should be fine. They show some as large as a 14" for that engine. I'm just not used to seeing them so tight to the anti-ventillation plate. Never had a E-Tec either. That pitch should be just about right.
I think the reason the E-tec is so tight and close is they like to make things to a very close tolerance :wink: :lol: :D :lol:
The guide boat I was on a few weeks back ran an E-Tec. After a Power Head replacement and 3 Lower ends, he's putting on a Yammy. :) Sorry, couldn't resist. He had the boat underpowered, IMO. Way to much strain on the motor.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:16 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Who did the windshield?

In the desert I'd give it a week. Can't wait to see that yellow 8)
C Larry, I had checked around and these guys seemed to be very fair on the price. It was just a bit more then if I bought the plex and did it myself. They also include the gromments, spacers and a drill bit. Packageing was great. Anyway here is who I used: Want to add the fit is perfect. Pictures to follow soon.
http://www.updplastics.com/

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:47 am
by Cracker Larry
Thanks for the link, that looks like a great source. I'll add them to my vendor list.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:41 pm
by Prarie Dog
Larry, thanks for the link to the windsheild place. Will they make a frame for the windshield too? I need a windshield and frame with grab handles for my GF. Gonna have to get Grandpa to send me the dimensions but need to do it soon.

Larry, I took the time to look at prop charts for this motor. None of them are very clear on what specific prop to put on this motor. They go from 13 to 14" on engines from 40 to 115hp. I don't know if the lower unit is the same on all of these engines or if the dimension from the prop shaft to the planer fin is the same for all lower units. It looks like a catalouging generalization for the benefit of suppliers to sell whatever to whoever they want. Other outboard manufacturers are very specific on what prop to use on which engine with which boat to get the owner close on diameter and pitch. Fine tuning finishes things off. I've looked at props on Yamaha, Honda, Tohatsu and have not seen props as close to the planer fin as Evinrude says they can be. Approximately one inch is about as close as the other manufacturers want to run them. If I were in your shoes I would ask myself if Evinrude is able to suspend the physics of a prop tip's proximity to a hard flat surface. Dynamicaly I think when the prop tip passes the planer fin it would deflect the tip and the prop shaft everytime it passed it when loaded. This could cause a host of problems with the prop shaft and hub. I don't know how much the rubber bushing in the prop can soak up but you would force it to deflect using it like this. Many prop shops advertise that they can clip a prop blade to customize the diameter. This is a very interesting situation and if you want to put it to rest just say so I'll leave it alone. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:24 pm
by Larry B
PD, no problem, This is why I like this forum. I'm going to run it and I'll keep ya'll updated as to how it works. I'm hoping for something like this for speed. :D :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACcVismTIVU

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:09 pm
by Larry B
Finally getting some decent weather. Got some primer on her today, going to put more on later today. Paint will arrive on the big brown truck today :D I think I'm going to go ahead and do the outside first, except for the console I might do that first or second :doh:

Anyway just some update pictures:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:31 pm
by Cracker Larry
Fantastic :!: :!: Man, you got her whipped now. Dang that boat has pretty lines 8) I am biased about that though :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:54 pm
by Larry B
Yea, its just this primer stage takes quite a bit of time. Lets you know in a hurry where you need to fix things :help:
Thanks for the compliment C Larry, even if you are bias :D :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:23 pm
by gstanfield
fantastic! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:29 pm
by Pat4
she is a beauty!! (even in primer stage :wink: )

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 pm
by macs
Looking good Larry B 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:09 pm
by Steven
Looking great. Do the console first. Nice small area to learn on and correct the inevitble learning mistakes. :) Unless you are already a paint master.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:53 pm
by sitandfish
Cracker Larry wrote:...Can't wait to see that yellow 8)
Yep, now that you (LarryB) have renewed your interest in the Arizona colors (picture from an earlier post of mine) I have doubled my interest in your boat. My interest started at "double" so, I guess I am at quadruple interest now. :lol:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:18 pm
by Larry B
Thanks guys, yep it will look like a AZ sunset :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:23 pm
by Brettitt41
Looking good. You can almost see the fish jumping on the deck.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:37 pm
by Larry B
Brettitt41 wrote:Looking good. You can almost see the fish jumping on the deck.
I'm sure Craig could make that happen :D :wink: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:55 pm
by cape man
see what I can do tomorow...


Boat looks Awesome!!!! Close now...very close.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 pm
by Larry B
Hey, does anyone have any tricks to pouring paint out of a 1 quart can into the measurement cup? Seems I can spill it everywhere except where I need it. I'm talking about sterling here so it's pretty thin. Need some pointers if anyone has some???

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:29 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Hey, does anyone have any tricks to pouring paint out of a 1 quart can into the measurement cup? Seems I can spill it everywhere except where I need it. I'm talking about sterling here so it's pretty thin. Need some pointers if anyone has some???
A ladle...

Or tape:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:39 am
by Cracker Larry
These little plastic snap on lips are what I use. Works great. They make them to fit pints, quarts and gallon cans. Our Lowes store has them, about $.65 ea 8)

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They are $1.19 at Boaters World, plus $6.95 shipping 8O

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/MP8 ... rce=Google

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:36 am
by Larry B
Thanks guys, I'll go to lowes and see if they have the plastic ones. Went to dunn edwards paint store and they don't carry them anymore :doh: That tape idea was pretty cool too :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:47 am
by Aripeka Angler
That is one sweet looking boat Larry:) Very nice looking work! Good luck with the Sterling, you are going to love it...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:56 am
by Larry B
Aripeka Angler wrote:That is one sweet looking boat Larry:) Very nice looking work! Good luck with the Sterling, you are going to love it...
Thanks Richard, really appreciate the compliments from people who have built boats and really set the bar HIGH.
I'm going to start with the console with small batchs to get the hang of it, then move to the outside hull, before tackling the inside with all the nooks and cranies :wink:
btw, I'm going to use the west system 1/8 foam rollers they sell here, In sterling directions it says to use the 1/8 foam rollers. Are this compatible with the sterling??? Don't want it to melt on me. I did buy some of the graduated cups they sell here after C Larry tried to use the drink cups :help:
Also it said brushing reducer won't clean your brush :doh: I didn't get any brush cleaner is there something else that will work? or will the brushing reducer work? Will MEK work?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:42 am
by Cracker Larry
MEK is what I used to clean the brushes, works great for a lot less $. I also used the West 1/8 foam rollers but I found they held too much paint. Cutting them down to fit a 4" roller frame helped a lot.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:54 am
by Larry B
Thanks C Larry all this info really helps me. Pictures to follow :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:38 pm
by Aripeka Angler
I got the tip from CL on cutting down the rollers, I'll parrot that it worked great. I used my chopsaw to do the deed. Also, I used some of the West rollers and some Corona rollers too. They were both very good...

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:29 pm
by Larry B
Sorry Guys, had to post another picture. Man that primer on the inside makes this boat look a lot bigger than before :D
Getting closer :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:38 pm
by wegcagle
Looks great Larry. 8) Not too far now.

I'm pretty sure this is the first time in history that someone apologized for posting boat porn :lol:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:52 pm
by Steven
Looking Great, Larry.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:45 pm
by cottontop
Larry, your boat is looking fine. Besides fishing, what are you going to do when you're done? John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:03 pm
by Larry B
cottontop wrote:Larry, your boat is looking fine. Besides fishing, what are you going to do when you're done? John
Thought about building my grandkids some fishing rods :D Going to take some long rides on my Harley :D Going to explore the back deserts of Arizona via atv, and do some camping and fishing back there :D And putting lots and lots of hours in my OD :D And if the wife has any say, I'm going to build her a inground pool, not contract it out, but build it. Excavate the hole, do the plumbing, do the steel, contract out the Gunite.
Thanks for the compliment Cottontop :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:51 pm
by Larry B
Well, just wasn't happy with the chine panels so I sanded them smooth and put a couple more coats of Graphite on, Now I'm happy :D Also made a Graphite bow stop. Figured it would turn black there anyway, so made a place for the stop. I hope it looks good when the boat is finished??? :doh:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:03 pm
by Larry B
Well getting started with the sterling. Here is a picture with the second coat. Pure White is going to take at least 3 coats. This is a picture with the second coat. First coat was a learning experience and this second coat went alot easier. Flat work is much easier than corners but I'll get the hang of it soon. Love the shine. Was in the dark garage and needed extra light to get the reflection.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:13 am
by topwater
Larry are you spraying or roll and tip :?:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:43 am
by Larry B
topwater wrote:Larry are you spraying or roll and tip :?:
Roll and Tip. It's a bitch trying to keep the dust and bugs out of it :help: Learning as I go on the console. Third coat going on today.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:01 pm
by Larry B
Well after the third coat, I finally believe everyone that told me to make it thin :doh: I now know what you mean when you say THIN. The first coat I thought was thin, NOT, Second coat much thinner but still not thin enough, Third coat looked way too thin but it seemed to be perfect :D Now I have to put another coat or two on because when I put the thicker paint on, I had to sand the runs and went thru to the primer and now need more coats to cover that area.
Appreciate those who let me know to really thin it, but I believe until you do it, you don't realize how thin it needs to be. Pictures to follow.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:18 pm
by Aripeka Angler
I finally believe everyone that told me to make it thin
I don't want to gloat, but I told you :lol: I can't wait to see the pictures :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:12 pm
by Larry B
Aripeka Angler wrote:
I finally believe everyone that told me to make it thin
I don't want to gloat, but I told you :lol: I can't wait to see the pictures :wink:
Richard, it wasn't that I didn't believe you, it's just that I thought i'd made it thin, but not thin enough. This stuff is different for sure. This last coat was really thin, Looked like water, but man it went on so fricking smooth I was so impressed :D :D Might get some Yeller on her tomorrow :wink: :D
Hey speaking of Yeller, I'm naming my boat Old Yeller, but thinking about changing it to Ol' Yeller
Would appreciate some input here if ya'll don't mind?????

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:39 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Hey speaking of Yeller, I'm naming my boat Old Yeller, but thinking about changing it to Ol' Yeller
Would appreciate some input here if ya'll don't mind?????
Much better. Less harsh. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:50 pm
by Cracker Larry
Appreciate those who let me know to really thin it, but I believe until you do it, you don't realize how thin it needs to be.
:lol: Thin, really thin. Once I got that worked out it was easy. Only took me about 4 coats to figure it out :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:48 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Ol' Yella :?: Sounds a lot less angry....

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:57 pm
by Cracker Larry
You'd be angry too if they shot you in the head :help:

Not sure why you're naming it after a rabid dog, but if it works for you it's OK with me. I like names with happy endings myself :lol: Ol' Yella is a lot like Titanic, they both went down 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:25 pm
by gstanfield
If'n you want a name with a happy ending I'd suggest naming it after this girlfriend I had in college. I won't go into details, but man oh man....happy endings........ :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:26 pm
by sitandfish
I keep thinking that an Old Yeller would be RED (in the face). "Ol' Yella" will be a good ol' girl and I doubt you will ever have to put her down. Watching how you built her, she's going to be around for a long long time. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:29 pm
by sitandfish
gstanfield wrote:If'n you want a name with a happy ending I'd suggest naming it after this girlfriend I had in college. I won't go into details, but man oh man....happy endings........ :wink:
Dang!!!!!!! George. Your wife just had a baby! :help:



But, I get your point. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:34 pm
by Larry B
Ok, guess I could just name it "Happy Ending" :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:42 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Ok, guess I could just name it "Happy Ending" :wink:
I just fel out of my chair, laughing!!! :lol: :wink: :lol: 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:23 pm
by gstanfield
Dang!!!!!!! George. Your wife just had a baby!
Just one of the many reasons I said I'd not go into details. :D Only in your mind do you imagine what I'm talking about as I never said anything specific :wink: . There's a term from work I kinda like to be able to use called "Plausible Deniability" 8)

George

P.S. Larry, it's your boat so you can name it whatever you want to and she'll still love you and treat you right. :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:46 am
by Larry B
Had a rough night last night, This dang name thing can really get hard. The more and more I ran Ol' Yeller thru my head the more I'm not liking it as much. Might still end up with it, but I think I may have come up with something a bit better and more of a happy ending kind of thing :wink:
So here it is, let me know what ya'll think? I know it's my boat and I'll name it what I want, but still like input about it. Like what the name might mean to others? ie; Richard thought Old Yeller seemed angry, CL thought of a old rabid dog, I'd rather have people read the name and think of a happy ending like CL mentioned :wink: Trying to stay with something that the colors mean something also.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:26 am
by cape man
Had to post...tell me if you want it deleted Larry...

http://www.jokeroo.com/videos/funny/hap ... ssage.html

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:29 am
by Larry B
Craig, that's funny right there :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:50 am
by cottontop
Larry, Craig's joke was funny, but on to more serious matters. Since your boat is going to be "yellow" and you are in Arizona, I like it. John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:02 am
by cape man
I like the name as well... :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:27 pm
by TomW
Great name Larry 8) And colors are perfect. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:47 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Had a rough night last night, This dang name thing can really get hard. The more and more I ran Ol' Yeller thru my head the more I'm not liking it as much.]
When I think of "Yellow Fin", it makes me happy. :wink:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:21 pm
by Cracker Larry
Much better :D How about Tequila Sunset?

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:43 pm
by Larry B
Or, Corona Beer Sunset

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:49 pm
by sitandfish
Arizona Corona sounds tasty!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:55 pm
by Cracker Larry
I like it :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:05 pm
by Larry B
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:22 pm
by sitandfish
I'd drink a beer on that boat. :lol:
Do you think you could get sponsored?
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:33 pm
by Cracker Larry
I'd sponsor her 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:00 pm
by sitandfish
:doh:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:29 pm
by Larry B
Here is the first coat of my yellow boat.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:34 pm
by Cracker Larry
That beats Ole Yeller hands down :D It's got some zing, pizzaz and promises of happy endings. The Greek root word of corona means crown, and that boat is much better crowned than shot in the head like ole Yeller :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:35 pm
by sitandfish
Man... that is sick! And by "sick" I mean great. :wink:
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:39 pm
by Cracker Larry
She's sure enough yellow 8) How did the first coat go?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:43 pm
by Larry B
Thats just the first coat. Man this yellow sure does cover. Mixed about 20oz, thats everything paint, Catalyst and thinner combined. Had about 3 to 4 oz left over :doh: and even painted the stern area. won't mix so much tomorrow? Man ya gotta love the sterling paint :D :D :D I'll do my whole boat with two coats with 2 quarts paint or less. If I do say so myself, This is gonna be one PRETTY BOAT :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:45 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:She's sure enough yellow 8) How did the first coat go?
went fine, did my learning on the console, except the white paint doesn't have near the pigment that the yellow has. took me thirty minutes to mix a quart. Two coats I believe will cover just fine. I did find two runs so far, but not too bad.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:56 pm
by Brettitt41
That is looking very yeller. Congrats on getting the color on.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:02 pm
by cape man
Larry,

That is absolutely gorgeous! Man! What a nice finish you got! I'm humbled.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:07 pm
by Steven
Looks great. I believe I've been inspsired to go a bold color direction. Maybe a nice lime green. :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:09 pm
by wegcagle
Beautiful job Larry, She's looks GREAT 8)

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:21 pm
by gstanfield
Very nice Larry, I sure do like a yellow boat personally. now you just need to repaint the console in lime green so it looks like the lime in your corona :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:12 am
by TomW
Man she looks great Larry That's a lovely color!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:38 am
by Larry B
And it looks like I just might have the last Sterling Yellow Boat :wink: :D Sterling don't make yellow anymore :doh: I believe Joel still has a quart of yellow :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:34 am
by macs
Nice Larry 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:36 am
by cottontop
Love the yellow. Wish I had known about "Sterling" when I painted mine. She's beautiful. John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:05 am
by Larry B
Thanks for all the compliments guys, I really appreciate it. Yes the sterling has a bit of a learning curve, but after that I couldn't think of using anything but sterling. It goes on so easy. Easier than spraying. Flat parts are a snap, corners and nooks and cranies a bit harder but pretty easy once you do a couple of them.
More pictures to follow :D :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:25 am
by Joe H
Wow Larry, that Yellow looks great, I was concerned when you said you were going with Yellow, but VERY nice!

I used Awlgrip paint on my hull sound like it has similar properties, thin, thin and then thin.

Joe H

I just noticed the yellow on the mini skirt, now that's some stiff compitition!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:46 am
by Larry B
Ok back to my name. Going with Arizona Sunset instead of Az Sunset use 4" letters and it will be 28" long.

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:58 am
by JamesT
Very nice! Once you get that pretty white motor hung on there it should make for a very clean looking ride. Some one needs to throw that "bar" away, its getting so high, i dont think us common folk could reach it anymore :D .

Just kidding, very impressive build!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:16 am
by wegcagle
I just noticed the yellow on the mini skirt, now that's some stiff compitition!
You said "stiff" :lol:

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:10 am
by hooter
Looks great!

no syringes, correct? Ha Haa

I like the color and the name. Might scare the fish though!

hOOter

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:16 am
by Larry B
hooter wrote:Looks great!

no syringes, correct? Ha Haa

I like the color and the name. Might scare the fish though!

hOOter
Hooter, after your post about the syringes I decided that I would give it a shot only with cleaning the syringes with acetone. Well while learning on the console. I did a small batch with the very clean syringes and still got fish eye's. Theres stuff in those syringes that even acetone won't clean out, but sterling will pick up small parts. Yep no more syringes for me. :wink: I'm a hard headed learner, but I do learn :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:20 am
by Bowmovement
Love the color Larry 8) . She looks great :!:

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:01 pm
by hooter
[/quote]

Hooter, after your post about the syringes I decided that I would give it a shot only with cleaning the syringes with acetone. Well while learning on the console. I did a small batch with the very clean syringes and still got fish eye's. Theres stuff in those syringes that even acetone won't clean out, but sterling will pick up small parts. Yep no more syringes for me. :wink: I'm a hard headed learner, but I do learn :D[/quote]


My suspicion is that the silicone rests in the rubber stoppers on the end of the plunger. I guess so the plunger slides better agains the wallso of the plastic.

I don't give a hoot at this point to run more experiments as I'm just happy to have paint that rolls on smooth! It might be fun to continue the chemistry experiments with a thorough cleaning of the rubber stopper.

hOOt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:23 pm
by Larry B
hooter wrote:
It might be fun to continue the chemistry experiments with a thorough cleaning of the rubber stopper.

hOOt[/quote]

I did a through cleaning of the rubber stopper. Acetone, alcohol more than a few times to make sure it was clean. Still don't work, like you I'm thru with experiments I'm happy to have the paint go on smooth :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:32 pm
by Larry B
Well made another decision :doh: I'm going to run a nmea 2000 network for my motor. I'll be able to read all info from the motor on my Garmin, that is everything except trim. On 90hp and below that option is not available. Kinda curious as to how the tachs will differ? But the one on the garmin from the motor is the one I'll rely on. Then I can add things as I go if I need them, but then again I didn't need this :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:59 pm
by Larry B
The dang wind blew all day long. Wasn't able to get another coat of paint on, so now I'll have to sand before putting the next coat on. Oh well it will happen and I believe I'll be in the water before next year. :D I just hate days when you can't do what you planned to do :doh: I did get my transducer in and my bait well scoop. Still need another coat on the console. That white really doesn't cover well. But have to have some contrast to that bright yellow.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:02 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Man that yella paint looks sweet :!: Very nice work :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:12 pm
by Steven
If you like syringes, use the ones for dispensing medicine to kiddos. No rubber stopper. The plunger is all plastic. But, don't clean with acetone. It takes off the lettering. Denatured alcohol works though.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:41 pm
by AussieBoater
Larry B wrote:Ok back to my name. Going with Arizona Sunset instead of Az Sunset use 4" letters and it will be 28" long.

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I like the name in full...
Your boat looks great and it will be a standout for many reasons...

The white will be at least 4 coats. Sterling only has one major flaw... it is so smooth and shiny, everything shows up. Any little piece of dust. I like it though.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:09 pm
by tobolamr
I like the full name, too. The lettering above gets a thumbs up, in my opinion, as well. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:32 pm
by steve292
Thats a fantastic finish, & a very nice colour Larry, way cool 8) 8) 8) .
steve

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:12 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for the compliments guys. I think it's going to be a great color too, EXCEPT out in the sun I'm already tired of looking at YELLOW :doh: I think when I have everything finished it will look good though :D I think I might tint the inside down some. I wanted the regular yellow, but all I could get is the Federal Yellow. I've got two coats on the outside and I've only used 1/2 quart of paint. Takes 12 oz. including all thinners.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:37 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:... EXCEPT out in the sun I'm already tired of looking at YELLOW :doh: I think when I have everything finished it will look good though :D I think I might tint the inside down some. I wanted the regular yellow, but all I could get is the Federal Yellow. I've got two coats on the outside and I've only used 1/2 quart of paint. Takes 12 oz. including all thinners.
Inside is going to be yellow too? :doh:

Yes, that would be way too much for me too. I thought with the white console the rest of the inside was white (or off white)?

So... what is the inside scheme. Sure hope I am not causing confusion. I'll delete this post if I am. :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:16 pm
by Larry B
The inside is yellow too, but with mostly white kiwi grip on the sole and gunwales, also lots of white hatches. The inside of the hull sides will be the most yellow with just some narrow stripes about 1" wide to separate the kiwi grip and hatches. I think if I tint it down a bit it will look good. But mostly white on the inside. I always appreciate input so never delete a post :wink: I know one thing, I will be seen on the lake 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:32 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:The inside is yellow too, but with mostly white kiwi grip on the sole and gunwales, also lots of white hatches. The inside of the hull sides will be the most yellow with just some narrow stripes about 1" wide to separate the kiwi grip and hatches. I think if I tint it down a bit it will look good. But mostly white on the inside. I always appreciate input so never delete a post :wink: I know one thing, I will be seen on the lake 8)
Lots better (to my eye) as you describe it, Larry. Thanks, for the clarification. I am a huge fan of your yellow boat. But, to me a yellow boat is a yellow boat on the outside. The tinting down of the limited yellow showing on the inside sounds GREAT!

It's hard to suggest things to a builder because, you want it to be 100 percent YOUR creation and worry that comments could put doubt in your decisions. So.... all that I suggest is simply what I like. Wish I had your 'skill' and 'eye' and 'determination' and etc... 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:05 pm
by Larry B
I do love this Sterling, but now the third coat I kinda messed it up :doh: Most would never see it, but I do so it's gotta be fixed. I'm going fishing in the morning overnite to see if those big Cats are biting. Going to leave the OD alone for a few days to get my wits about me. Then I've got plenty of color on her and I'll give her a good sand with 320 and a very thin coat of Sterling to top it off and make it acceptable to me. Then on to the inside. Console needs another finish coat and it's done. Sole just gets some stripes and kiwi grip so that will be pretty easy. Need the console done so I can start my guages and all the other neat stuff. She's close.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:47 pm
by gstanfield
Have fun fishing, enjoy the relax then after posting pictures of your fishing trip get back to building :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:28 am
by TomW
Larry it is good to get away and take a little break. Go catch some big fish and have some fun! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:33 pm
by cape man
Need the console done so I can start my guages and all the other neat stuff. She's close.
The best part!!!! Go baby go!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:17 pm
by Larry B
couldn't resist, More pictures :D I have found the best way to get a great finish with the Sterling (anyway for this is the best way) I put on three coats within the time frame it says. One coat everyday. Then I let it dry for 2 to 3 days and sand it down with 320 to a very nice finish. Then do the 4th coat and try to get it perfect, I said try, Mine ain't perfect but it looks good to me. A couple of very small runs you have to get in just the perfect lighting to see them, but I'm not going to sand it down right now to fix it. I've got plenty of paint and if In a couple years I've got some nick and scracths which I'm sure I'll have, then I'll sand and paint. Then I tinted some of the yellow down and started on the inside. It's got two coats here and I'll sand and probably finish with three. The bare spots are where the kiwigrip goes. It really looks yellow but when I get all my white hatchs and white kiwigrip on it will look just fine.
Notice the fender img. in the paint :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:43 pm
by TomW
Look's great Larry that white motor will really look sharp on her! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:47 pm
by gstanfield
Very nice, I like that a lot :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:51 pm
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Look's great Larry that white motor will really look sharp on her! :D
Tom, I shooting to have my paint and kiwigrip done by next week, Then Get my motor hung and do all my rigging and electrical. :D
Very nice, I like that a lot
Thanks George, means a lot coming from someone who paints cars :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:18 pm
by Fonda@kauai
Looks GREAT! Gotta love Sterling :) Quick question: I'm contemplating how I'll paint my interior and was wondering how you hid the paint overlaps? Or were there any? I'm just thinking by the time I go around the boat and get back to were I started to paint the new paint won't blend with the old and I'll have a weird overlap. Hope that makes sense :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:23 pm
by Larry B
Fonda@kauai wrote:Looks GREAT! Gotta love Sterling :) Quick question: I'm contemplating how I'll paint my interior and was wondering how you hid the paint overlaps? Or were there any? I'm just thinking by the time I go around the boat and get back to were I started to paint the new paint won't blend with the old and I'll have a weird overlap. Hope that makes sense :doh:
Makes sense, I thought the same thing so what I did is start at the transom where the motor bolts on. I'm using a jack plate so I knew that it would hide any overlap. And yes by the time you get back around there is some, Not much but it's there. I haven't had a problem in the inside but then again you can't see it like the outside. Hope this helps you.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:24 pm
by Steven
Looks great Larry. I'm curious too about overlap issues. How long does the edge stay wet enough to blend. I'm concerned that by the time I make it around the boat, the edge where I started wont' be wet enough to blend.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:30 pm
by Cracker Larry
I tried to put my paint overlaps right on a corner, so they aren't so noticeable.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:45 pm
by Fonda@kauai
Thanks, I knew there had to be overlaps somewhere :!: I'll probably hide mine in corners as well, there'll only be a few. Either that or find a trustworthy friend to work opposite of me........ Anyway, thanks again, looks great!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:50 pm
by sitandfish
I sure hope you know how to launch a boat quickly. The guys at the boat ramp are going to want to talk your ear off about this boat. It looks stunning! :wink: 8)
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:19 pm
by wegcagle
Beautiful work Larry. Never thought I would like a yellow hull, but that looks absolutely AMAZING 8)

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:47 am
by steve292
8) 8) Thats fantastic Larry, really nice work. :D
Steve

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:17 am
by cottontop
Beautiful Larry. That is one fine looking boat. Gotta "love" that shine. John 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:58 am
by Aripeka Angler
Wow!!! That's pretty!!! And straight too. You have outdone yourself, no..... you have outdone just about everybody else too :lol: Very nice 8)

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:30 am
by topwater
The boat looks great, i like the yellow 8) I also cant stop looking at your trailer, a great job there also :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:51 am
by Cracker Larry
Well done there Larry :D You've come a long ways 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:03 am
by colonialc19
WOW 8) , that is nice, very nice, Good job Larry,

Daniel

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:18 am
by Larry B
Thanks Guys, Really appreciate the comments. :D Doing the last coat of paint today on the gunwales and inside. Right now sanding and took a break. This should be the last of the sanding if I don't screw it up :help: Pictures next week should really show it off. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:33 am
by tobolamr
Larry - impressive job! I'm not big on Yellow, but that's one heck of a nice looking paint job!!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:42 pm
by cape man
Been traveling and busy. WOW!!!! Great job!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:41 pm
by Brettitt41
That is one nice looking yellow boat.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:21 pm
by gstanfield
Ahhh the banana boat :lol: I like how you tinted the insides to make the color just a little different, breaks it up nicely :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm
by Larry B
Well, got the final coat on the inside today. What a bitch :doh: It ain't perfect but it's good enough for me. It will get banged up some anyway. It's shiny with just the right amount of runs :wink: Wanted some runs to break up the sun shine :wink: :roll: Now on to the kiwigrip, I know I can't mess that up :help:
Hey C Larry if your reading this? Did you have any luck with touch up on the sterling? If so let me know just how you did it?? I'm thinking the spots where I have some runs might be able to sand and touch up some, but I'd rather look at the runs than mess it up more, and I for sure don't want to have to put another coat on her :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:21 am
by Cracker Larry
I tried to touch up a couple of spots but didn't have much luck blending them in. Wasn't happy with it and had to paint one entire side to make it look right.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:31 am
by Larry B
Thanks C Larry, thats what I thought I remembered. It will be easier on the inside as I have lots of corners to hide the line. The outside is fine. Just a few spots on the inside, but I think I'm going to leave it alone. Seems I start trying to make it better and I mess something else up. No one other than me will probably even notice, and if they do, I'll tell them to get on there back with a roller and brush and see if they can do better :wink: I plan on using the boat so I'm sure it will get scracthed up some, especially on the inside. I sure don't evny you if you decide to go with sterling on the inside, all I can say is it's a bitch, did I mention it's a bitch. If I was younger and smaller probably not too bad, but I ain't 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:15 pm
by Larry B
Well got some Kiwigrip on today. Man that stuff is nice to work with :D I'll post some pictures when I get some hardware on her. But DAMN she is lookin good. This is where all that work pays off and she starts to SHINE :D :D I just put the kiwigrip on the gunwales, I'll put it on the sole when everything else is done.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:22 am
by cottontop
Larry your boat is really fine. I love everyone's use of the "Sterling". I used "S3" and it has held up real well. I too got to a point and said enough is enough. I think we all do. Perfection is in the eyes of the "beholder". 8) John

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:35 am
by Larry B
cottontop wrote:Larry your boat is really fine. I love everyone's use of the "Sterling". I used "S3" and it has held up real well. I too got to a point and said enough is enough. I think we all do. Perfection is in the eyes of the "beholder". 8) John
Cottontop, those are the words I was looking for "Enough is Enough" Without perfect conditions it will never be perfect. Without wetsanding and buffing I won't get the dust out but thats why I used Sterling so I didn't have to sand and buff. So the dust stays :wink: It still turned out to be a nice 5 foot paint job that you could shave in :D
Thanks for the compliment Cottontop

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:31 pm
by Larry B
PROBLEM, NEED HELP!!!!
Ok here's the deal. I knew my steering cable would be tight, but it's too tight, can barely turn the wheel to make the cable move. So anyway I've got to move the cable routing :help: I'm guessing out the top, but there will still be a good bend but I don't think half as bad as the way it is. Was thinking to just run the steering cable out the top and keep everything else where it's at??? What ya think?

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:38 pm
by Mad Dog
How's about one of these? Much easier to convert. No cutting or putting the cable in a vulnerable configuration.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 8894714047


MD :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:43 pm
by Cracker Larry
Didn't I warn you about that :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:56 pm
by Steven
Seems like going Hydraulic is the best solution. Does the problem arise from having the hole too low since the deck is low? I'm about to drill the hole for my cables through the motorwell side and don't want to run into this if I decide to go cable steering. My decks are flush to the sheer so I can have the hole higher.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:07 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Didn't I warn you about that :doh:
Yea, but I'm hard headed and don't listen sometimes :wink: biggest problem is I might drill a hole in the top and it still don't work???? Oh, whats the saying: "Drill Baby Drill"

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:16 pm
by BassMunn
Shucks Larry I feel for you, I've got the same problem, just not as bad as yours. It's caused by the jack plate pushing the motor further away from the transom. Going out the top of the deck would ease it a bit but you're still probably going to hit that high part of the transom. You might need to cut it down slightly, but obviously see if you can get away without doing that.

Or take the jack plate off and mount straight onto the transom.

Hydraulic would be the easiest fix but also the most expensive.

Good luck on your decision

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:19 pm
by BassMunn
Larry I just looked back through your thread and realised that you already had paint on her (I've been off of here for a while), boat looks awesome. That's one top notch paint job :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:11 am
by Larry B
Well, I think I've made a decision. I believe I'm going to go with the Baystar 1-HK4200A.

Now if anyone needs a good deal on a Teleflex SS13215 NFB Safe-T II just let me know? It's brand new, but installed once.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:45 am
by SmokyMountain
Larry,

I recently purchased one of the Baystar Hydraulic Steering Kits, the best price I found was at lowcostboatingstore.com
I also purcahsed my Talon from this place. They have some good prices.

Andrew

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:42 am
by Steven
I might be intereseted in it. Will have to measure to see if it will work. What do you want for it?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:48 am
by Larry B
SmokyMountain wrote:Larry,

I recently purchased one of the Baystar Hydraulic Steering Kits, the best price I found was at lowcostboatingstore.com
I also purcahsed my Talon from this place. They have some good prices.

Andrew
Yep, thats the place I was looking at. Going to order it this morning :D
btw, how do you like your Baystar?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:02 am
by Larry B
Steven wrote:I might be intereseted in it. Will have to measure to see if it will work. What do you want for it?
How about $140 and I'll pay the shipping? Shipping will probably be about $30.00 Let me know. you can email me at sanjoaquin1000 at yahoo dot com

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:52 am
by SmokyMountain
btw, how do you like your Baystar?
I don't know :oops: :) , haven't installed it yet. Richard installed one on his XF20 and loves it.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:55 am
by Larry B
SmokyMountain wrote:
btw, how do you like your Baystar?
I don't know :oops: :) , haven't installed it yet. Richard installed one on his XF20 and loves it.
Well mine is on order so should have it installed next week :D A lot of money, but seemed easier than drilling more holes in my boat, and even at that the cable would have been tight and rub on the transom. This will be a much better way to go. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:11 am
by Larry B
Another question? What Motor height should I start with? Should I start with the Cavitation plate level with the bottom of the boat and then work from there? Or should I raise it some and start there?
Thanks in advance.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:23 am
by Cracker Larry
With the jack plate I'd start about 1-2" above the bottom. I've got the same jack plate and I'm running mine about 4" above the bottom.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:27 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:With the jack plate I'd start about 1-2" above the bottom. I've got the same jack plate and I'm running mine about 4" above the bottom.
Thanks C Larry, thats what I'll do.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:47 pm
by TomW
Until we know what that prop is going to do 1-2" is a good place to start.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:31 am
by Larry B
Just posting a quick picture looking over the helm :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:32 pm
by gstanfield
I like it :D I'm betting sunglasses will be required when on board, but it can't be worse than my pure white interior 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:00 pm
by captj13
Hatchmaster !! ........ that surely is a stunning array of storage access!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:16 pm
by Larry B
Hey Look at that SHINE????

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:26 pm
by gstanfield
Enough showing off already, let's see some blood on those pretty yellow decks :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:44 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:Enough showing off already, let's see some blood on those pretty yellow decks :wink:
And whoever built that trailer didn't do too bad either :oops:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:15 pm
by Joe H
OH, Oh, Arizona could tie it all up right now!!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:23 pm
by gstanfield
And whoever built that trailer didn't do too bad either
Absolutely my friend. You did a great job all the way around, even got a pretty white motor instead of some dull old grey or black blog to hang on the back :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:32 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:
And whoever built that trailer didn't do too bad either
Absolutely my friend. You did a great job all the way around, even got a pretty white motor instead of some dull old grey or black blog to hang on the back :wink:
Yes siree, Pictures to follow :wink: She's Hung, just want her a bit further before pictures???? :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:30 am
by TomW
Wher dem numbrs cn't hve yu going ot ther an gettn't no dang tick't! :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:06 am
by macs
Great job Larry, she looks awesome 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:09 am
by Larry B
TomW wrote:Wher dem numbrs cn't hve yu going ot ther an gettn't no dang tick't! :lol: :lol:
I've got my numbers, going to do the rub rail today and then I can put the numbers and name on the boat. Didn't want to mess them up putting the rub rail on. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:45 pm
by Fonda@kauai
You started after me, and now you'll be launching before me.....I hate you :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:18 pm
by cape man

You started after me, and now you'll be launching before me.....I hate you
Ouch!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:17 pm
by Larry B
Got my rubrail on today, Now does anyone have a easy way to insert the insert :help: I tried the way the video said and still a bitch. Was hoping someone had figured out a easier way?? If so please let me know.???
Thanks

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:33 pm
by Cracker Larry
I soaked mine in warm soapy water, got Mrs. Cracker to help me stretch it, and beat it in with a rubber mallet. It wasn't easy. Nothing about that rub rail was easy :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:49 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I soaked mine in warm soapy water, got Mrs. Cracker to help me stretch it, and beat it in with a rubber mallet. It wasn't easy. Nothing about that rub rail was easy :?
I hear ya on none of the rubrail was easy :help: After I posted that question I went back to it and used a heat gun, one foot at a time and I got it done. Wife gave me help too, Kept saying come on, get it done, don't be a wuss, whats a little back ache and sore fingers??? :roll: Heck even had to get my own beer :roll:
Im just glad it's done. Another mile stone to put behind me. Now back to the wiring,

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:10 am
by Larry B
Just a little bit further :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:21 am
by Bowmovement
Very Nice!! When you splashing her?

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:29 am
by gstanfield
Very sharp looking boat you have there, can't wait to see her on the water :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:34 am
by TomW
Outstanding Larry!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:25 pm
by cape man
SUWEET!!!!!!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:32 pm
by sitandfish
Larry, when I saw your latest picture only one thought came to mind.

Ba...ba...ba...ba...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7VsoxT_FUY

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:40 pm
by Brettitt41
She looks great Larry. Congrats on a beautiful build.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:06 pm
by Joe H
Very COOL Larry, very cool.

Joe H

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:32 pm
by Larry B
OK, who can tell me how hard should it be to draw fuel up thru the anti-syphon valve? It's hard to even pressureize the tank and have fuel flow, I can get it to flow a bit but when I squeeze my bulb it just stays colapsts. I removed the antisyphon valve and I can blow thru it with compressed air but I can't blow thru it or suck air thru it.
I did this test: http://www.marinemechanic.com/asof-8-29/antsiphon.htm and it seemed to pass, put it back in and pressureized the tank and got fuel to the bulb, hooked it to motor and when I squeeze the bulb it just stays flat :help: :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:36 pm
by gstanfield
Is the tank venting? If there's no way for air to come into the tank then it'll have a hard time letting fuel go out. A simple test for this is to remove your filler cap and see if it fixes the problem. If it does then your vent line is kinked or plugged somewhere.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:40 pm
by Cracker Larry
Is the bulb on backwards :doh: It should have almost no resistance.

She's beautiful BTW 8) The graphics for the name are great. Ole yeller just wouldn't have been the same :lol:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:48 pm
by Larry B
Thanks for asking but no I have the bulb going the right direction, checked it a dozen times and each time it's still going the same way :D
Anyway, removed the antisyphon valve and replaced with just a fitting, it works great now :wink: So I'll pick up a antisyphon valve and put it in and check it again.

Thanks for the compliments guys, and I agree Old Yeller just wouldn't have worked 8O

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:40 pm
by Cracker Larry
Just checking :wink: I have done that once myself and can assure you from experience that the check valve in the bulb won't pass fuel backwards :oops: :oops:

Both the bulbs and the anti siphon valves are famous for failure, even brand new. They seem to have a hard time making a good one of either :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:48 pm
by Prarie Dog
Larry, that is a beautiful boat, great paint work and nice lettering on the name. I agree Ole Yeller don't work Yellow Submarine would be inappropriate too. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:40 pm
by Steven
Looks great. When's the splash date?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:43 pm
by Cracker Larry
When's the splash date?
Shortly after she's sucking fuel I suspect :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:53 pm
by Steven
If you have a shut off valve at the tank, you should need an anit siphon valve. I'm not planning on using one since I have a valve.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:56 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
When's the splash date?
Shortly after she's sucking fuel I suspect :lol:
Funny you mention Sucking Fuel 8O , C Larry you should get a kick out of this, just because it's a Evinrude :wink: And don't blame you, I'd take advantage and make some fun too.
Anyway, getting fuel to every place thats its not suppose to be :doh: Yep, pump the bulb and fuel goes in the vapor vent line and right into the intake and then fuel everywhere. Got a email into the dealer, looks like I'll be taking it in for repairs and I haven't even started it yet :help: :doh: So yea this really sucks big time. :( :(

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:00 pm
by Steven
That sucks big time. Even CL will fail to see much humor in that. :) I can imagine the disapointment.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:48 am
by TomW
Bummer Larry :( :( You'll get it worked out! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:34 am
by cape man
UNSUWEET!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:35 am
by Cracker Larry
Nope, not even I will take a shot at that, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel :( It's probably something simple, you'll get it worked out.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:06 am
by topwater
That sounds really strange seeing how this is a high pressure fuel injected engine, sounds like something
not hooked up. Maybe a fuel line that runs into the fuel pump ? :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:30 am
by Larry B
Well I'll keep ya'll updated. As Cracker would say "it's just a thing" So I aint gonna get upset, might just take my FL14 out for a fishing trip :D It's got a Yammi on the back of it :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:14 pm
by Larry B
OK, all is good on the motor, just a stuck needle valve on the vapor separator :D Said they had never seen that before :doh:

Now, what do ya'll think she weighs??????With Motor, Jack Plate, hyd. steering, 500' of anchor rope, two anchors, 10 gal. of fuel, one group 27 battery??????????

I weighed her today so if someone wants to take a guess? Then I'll post the number later :wink:

I weighed the trailer before I loaded her so it will be accurate with the CAT Scales I went to.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:36 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:...Now, what do ya'll think she weighs?.
1,235 lbs

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:38 pm
by Larry B
sitandfish wrote:
Larry B wrote:...Now, what do ya'll think she weighs?.
1,235 lbs
Way off :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:41 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:
sitandfish wrote:
Larry B wrote:...Now, what do ya'll think she weighs?.
1,235 lbs
Way off :help:
I didn't know you were such a skilled builder. :D

Lot lower, right? :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:48 pm
by Larry B
sitandfish wrote:I didn't know you were such a skilled builder. :D

Lot lower, right? :doh:
Lower, Yea Right 8O 8O No you need to go up some :cry: :?

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:52 pm
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:
sitandfish wrote:I didn't know you were such a skilled builder. :D

Lot lower, right? :doh:
Lower, Yea Right 8O 8O No you need to go up some :cry: :?
OK, I'm going to look through your build pictures but, I can't remember a lot of added weight. I did forget foam and all those hatched. You gots lots of hatches. :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:15 pm
by JimmyB
1700 lbs? :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:16 pm
by Larry B
Jimmy, you getting close :wink: Still UP

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:29 pm
by Cracker Larry
I know what mine weighs, so I'll stay out of the pool :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:39 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:I know what mine weighs, so I'll stay out of the pool :lol:
Actually I was hoping you would jump in here :D I looked thru your thread and couldn't find your weight?
Curious minds would like to know?????? :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:47 pm
by AussieBoater
1950 lbs

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:48 pm
by Larry B
AussieBoater wrote:1950 lbs
Not that HIGH :help:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:52 pm
by Larry B
OK, you guys are very close, so here she is: 1810 LBS And I'll be adding one more group 27, oh and 15 more gallons of gas. but other than that, Just me, wife, dog and beer. Me 235, wife 110, dog 60, Beer unknown.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:09 am
by TomW
Larry sending you an e-mail based on your new weights and the 60HP Evinrude. I assume your getting the proplems solved on ETEC Take care and best wishes on the motor.

So displacement weight will be:
1810 +
67+
90+
225+
110+
60+
50

Displacement weight 2400 lbs with a standard load.

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:55 am
by Larry B
Yea, Tom got the motor problems done. It was minor as I thought It would be. I just don't know Sh&^ about electronic motor :doh:
I'll look forward to your email. I'm still starting off with the 13 3/4 x 15 and I hope to have a report by Early next week. Going to get this baby WET :D :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:01 pm
by Larry B
Just a couple of pictures::::

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:04 pm
by sitandfish
Too beautiful for words!
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:15 pm
by gstanfield
Definately work to be proud of! Now to put some water under that hull 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:44 am
by macs
She looks great Larry. You did a fine job :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:10 am
by Cracker Larry
Is today going to be the splash day :?: I know you're excited now! Hope it goes well.

Time will work out the details, but I'd consider moving that fire extinguisher. It's going to be rough on knees and shinbones when the water gets sloppy.

I think Mustard and Mayonnaise would have been a good name for that boat :P

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:27 am
by Larry B
Thanks for the compliments guys,
Time will work out the details, but I'd consider moving that fire extinguisher. It's going to be rough on knees and shinbones when the water gets sloppy.
Yea, I'm new at this, so I hope my knees and other parts of my body hold while I'm working out the details :doh:
I think Mustard and Mayonnaise would have been a good name for that boat
Thats just Cruel :D ,
but I went to the MVD yesterday because I had to shorten the tongue on my trailer and it was going to interfere with the Vin # tag, paid a few bucks for a new title and Vin Tag. But the guy couldn't believe I built it 8) It was busy inside, but he brought some others out to look at it, and these arent even boat people, Maybe they were chef's and was thinking of Mustard and Mayonnaise :doh: Should get some looks at the Dock on Sunday. Yep that's Splash Day,

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:37 am
by cape man
Larry,

Been a long and memorable road to here! She is definitely a piece of art to be proud of. Hope she performs equally as well as a functional tool. Beautiful job. Just beautiful!

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:38 am
by sitandfish
Larry B wrote:Yea, I'm new at this, so I hope my knees and other parts of my body hold while I'm working out the details :doh
It's a good point and concern but... wait til you see how you use the boat. I have a tendency to stay on the left side of my console and it is set up very much like yours. You could move it and just as easily find that it causes some other problem. Just get her on the water and see how you use it. :wink:

And if your friends can't make fun of you, who can? :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:48 am
by Larry B
sitandfish wrote:

And if your friends can't make fun of you, who can? :D
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Hey, he copied the colors of my boat, I should have named her Classic Yellow :lol: Oh well people can see me a coming, They can say, Hey isn't that Larry over there about 5 miles to the West??? Looks like a Arizona Sunset :lol: :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:05 am
by sitandfish
I would stick with the Arizona theme. :wink:
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Yellow boats are classic! Especially yours. 8)
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:18 am
by Uncle D
sitandfish wrote:I would stick with the Arizona theme. :wink:
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Yellow boats are classic! Especially yours. 8)
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Sure is pretty pictures, Jim :D

Larry, I think every time you go out in "Sunset" your going to get a lot of complements. Leave earlier and get use to it, amigo!! :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:41 pm
by Larry B
If all goes well, gonna SPLASH her tomorrow, Yippee :D :D Got some added weight also, wife thinks were going on a 3 month cruise :doh: :doh: Going to get some numbers and then hopefully get in a bit of fishing, Pictures to follow :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:48 pm
by gstanfield
SWEEET!!!! I can't wait to see that pretty yeller boat floating around. :D Maybe tomorrow will be a good time to ask what your selling price will be on the FL14 complete with trailer and motor :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:57 pm
by TomW
A 3 month cruise eh :lol: You going to lose her on the far shore and come back in a few days after fishing :lol: :lol: Have fun 8)

Tom

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:29 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:SWEEET!!!! I can't wait to see that pretty yeller boat floating around. :D Maybe tomorrow will be a good time to ask what your selling price will be on the FL14 complete with trailer and motor :wink:
I've got a kid I take fishing with me sometimes, well a kid to me, he's over 18 something. He wants to buy it, wanted it for a grand, but I just don't feel good about that so I'm going to probably sell it to him for 6 hundred. Sometimes it aint abou the money. And thats with a nice 4hp 4stroke Yammi. Boat took a beating on the rocks last year, so I told him I'd help him do the cosmetics on it too, Was going to keep it so when I went camping with my trailer I could load it on my truck. I even bought a couple of the Eide loaders for my truck. I seem to always think way ahead of my projects. :doh:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:11 pm
by gstanfield
Good call Larry :D It's nice to pass along to someone else. When I finally get around to building my larger boat my FL14 is going to my father in law. He loves to fish, but don't have a boat and really likes that little FL of mine.

George

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:13 pm
by hooter
And???

Pics???

I'm dying here.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:21 pm
by Larry B
OK floks, she's all wet :D Man she runs sweet. Splash Rails did there job, I couldn't get wet even on purpose. I'm going to post a video on you tube showing how well they work. Have to raise my motor and work on a better prop.
I can run 6000 too easy with a speep of about 28-29mph, 5000 she runs right at 23mph. And thats draging the motor because the cavitation plate is way low in the water.
For all the weight I've got in her she don't sit too bad at all. Right at the scuppers with my fat arse in her.
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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:23 pm
by gstanfield
:D :D Congrats :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:41 pm
by Larry B
Thanks George,
Here's for C Larry and Craig, You should have put that splash rail on, man this is a very dry boat, Wind was blowing, and I still couldn't get wet, good thing it wasn't hot I'd have to jump in the lake to get wet :D :wink:
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_87-u0G8AU

Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:44 pm
by gstanfield

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:10 pm
by Steven
Outstanding Larry. She looks right at home. I predict a few retrofit copies of your spray rails.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:19 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Larry, congratulations on the splash! I have not seen too many finer looking boats on here :wink: Very nice looking work and that has to be the understatement of the week. Really would like to put an eyeball on her, she sure is pretty :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:32 pm
by Prarie Dog
Great job Larry :!: That is a beautiful looking build, really like the color. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:04 pm
by sitandfish
Swweeeeeeeeeeeeet! You must be grinning from ear to ear. 8)
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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:10 pm
by Cracker Larry
Sweet 8) Congratulations, you did a mighty fine job on on her Larry :D Need more pics! Too bad you can't bring her to Florida in June.
Here's for C Larry and Craig, You should have put that splash rail on, man this is a very dry boat, Wind was blowing, and I still couldn't get wet, good thing it wasn't hot I'd have to jump in the lake to get wet :D :wink:
That ain't no spray :lol: Wait until you see Boca Grande pass with the wind blowing against the tide in few weeks. Then you'll know what those spray rails are really for :wink: You'll probably be cussing us both for not putting them on :lol: It really ain't so bad, if you close your eyes and hold your breath every time you hit a wave 8O

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Re: OD18 in Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:36 pm
by TRC886
Cracker Larry wrote:...Dang that boat has pretty lines 8) I am biased about that though :lol:
I am biased too...AGAINST flat bottomed boats, but
Dang that boat has pretty lines 8)
she sure does :!: :!: :!:

I like that bold yellow too, and have admired many yellow "plastic boats" over the past few years. She looks great in the water too, and I know you'll enjoy it for many years :!:

trc

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:47 pm
by Royce
Congrats on the splash! She looks great in the water.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:04 pm
by Larry B
Ok guys another video for ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dofu_EeDfMU

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:26 pm
by sitandfish
Here he is!!!!! The 'man'. The 'boatbuilder'. The 'fisherman'. The 'trailer builder'. The 'painter'. The 'artist'. The....
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That is a well deserved grin! 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:36 pm
by Bowmovement
Congrats Larry :!: :!: :!: :!:

Awesome job :!: 8)

The grin says it all :D

Matt

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:32 pm
by TomW
Wow Larry what a day! Your grin says it all! :D 8) :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:11 am
by topwater
Wow Larry the boat looks outstanding :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:53 am
by Larry B
Thanks for all the compliments, Yea I still have a grin this morning. Going back out Tuesday after I raise my motor to get some new numbers.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:21 am
by Cracker Larry
Man that ETech sure is quiet 8) Did you fix that bent prop?

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:45 am
by tech_support
That video made my Monday morning :)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:56 am
by fishingdan
Congratulations. You will remember that day forever.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:59 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Man that ETech sure is quiet 8) Did you fix that bent prop?
Yea it is more quiet than I really expected. No on the prop., I might have found a local shop that I can leave a deposit and take some props to the lake to find the right one. Trying to get my motor height right first, but that might change with the prop :doh: I took it in for the dealer to do the predelivery checkup and he seemed to think the prop was ok, All my rigging was good. Just wanted him to do that so there would not be any warrenty issues later :wink: I'm running nmea 2000 network to my garmin for accurate rpm readings from the EMM. Gives me motor Temp, volts and fuel usage also.
That video made my Monday morning
Glad to help out your Monday Morning :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:19 pm
by cottontop
Larry, What a "greaaaattttttttt" run for a great looking boat and a fine builder. What more can we say? John :D 8) 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:28 pm
by macs
Awesome Larry. She looks great!!! Thanks for sharing the videos

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:25 pm
by cape man
Larry,

Awesome! Spent the day on Tampa Bay with Richard and a friend from the Seattle area and Richard told me you splashed and had video of the spray rail performance. Awesome and congrats!!

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:44 pm
by ks8
That is one sweet and quiet fishing machine! Congrats! Thanks for the video! :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:06 am
by texasrds
Outstanding Larry and a big congratuations!! She looks absolutely great in the video and good to hear about the spray rails too.

Randy

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:25 pm
by tobolamr
Awesome! Great video!

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:07 pm
by Joe H
Awsome Larry, what a nice ride!

Joe H

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:19 am
by D2Maine
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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:21 am
by tech_support
Why is this thread not on the bateau front page under launchings?! :doh:
the boat color is too bright :D just kidding.

Im sure it will be there when we update the front page. :!:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:00 am
by Larry B
shine wrote:
the boat color is too bright :D just kidding.
:!:
I seem to be getting this A LOT :D But I can be seen on the lake :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:24 am
by gk108
Baffle them with BS if you have to. Red and yellow are the first colors to get filtered out by water, so the fish don't see you coming. :lol:
Your boat looks great. I really like all of the secure storage for "stuff". 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:02 am
by Lower
Larry...congrats on the launch. Boat looks awesome. You did a great job on the build. Video is great too! Thanks for sharing.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:46 pm
by BassMunn
Well done Larry, the boat looks awesome :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:27 pm
by wegcagle
Somehow I missed the video. Those spray rails work like a charm. Great job 8)

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:16 am
by ArizonaBuilder
Hey Larry, sweet looking boat. You did one fantastic job.
Maybe I will see at the lake next weekend. Happy boating.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:27 am
by Larry B
Well finally got a fish in the boat :D

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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:30 am
by JamesT
Nice cat there Larry B. Hey think you got enough rods set out? :D Fish dont stand a chance like that...Boat looks great, How does it seem to be working for you?

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:34 am
by Cracker Larry
Fantastic 8) The first blood to hit the deck that wasn't yours :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:35 am
by wegcagle
Nice catfish 8) and congrats on first blood

Will

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:40 am
by Larry B
Boat looks great, How does it seem to be working for you?
Love the boat. It's working great. Still working on motor height and correct prop but getting close.
Fantastic The first blood to hit the deck that wasn't yours
I left plenty of DNA in the build :lol:

Boat is real stable, I've got a ice chest with 3 days of drinks and ice, I'm standing on the gunwale and I'm coming in at 235 plus a 25 pound fish :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:24 am
by cape man
That my friend is what it is all about!!! Congrats! Nice Cat!

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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:16 pm
by gstanfield
Congrats on getting some fish on deck. I'm guessing here, but Arizona must not have a rod limit per angler like Wyoming does. We can only have two rods per person here :|

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:40 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:Congrats on getting some fish on deck. I'm guessing here, but Arizona must not have a rod limit per angler like Wyoming does. We can only have two rods per person here :|
It's the same in Arizona, as long as you pay a bit more for the two pole stamp. I don't have all those in the water. Three are for my bait rods, and I have 3 cat rods. Gotta be prepared. But only two in the water at a time. :D :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:05 pm
by Cracker Larry
Well that's one stupid law that hasn't made it's way to the southern coast yet :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:24 pm
by gstanfield
Yeah, but then again a dozen rods wouldn't help much out here :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:29 pm
by Larry B
Just a couple more pictures:

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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:17 am
by topwater
Keep posting the pic's :!:
That boats color fits the location perfectly 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:43 am
by Larry B
Well thought I'd post some numbers I'm getting.
Right now I'm 2 1/2" above the bottom with the anti-cavitation plate. I'm getting 5600 rpm and 30 mph. I can get 31 by trimming the motor up but then she starts to porpoise so I just back off a bit and she is fine. She likes 28mph really nice and cruise at 24 to 25 very nice. Overall I'm very happy because I built her so heavy, but she rides nice. I've tried everything I can think of and about the only way I can get water in the boat is to use a bucket :D I can spin circles, hit wakes, ride rough water and the spray rails keep the water down. This boat is DRY!!. Thanks for all the tips to put on the spray rail :D I'm going to try to get more pictures later.
Oh btw, I'm using a 13 1/4" X 15 Prop

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:10 pm
by Larry B
A couple more Arizona pictures:

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In this picture you can see the splash rail at work :D
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Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:02 pm
by Cracker Larry
That color and those surroundings, plus the name, are all a perfect match 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:53 am
by Garnett
Just read this thread, from start to finish. Well done Larry! What a fantastic boat.

Reading the thread has been incredibly motivational. If I go ahead with the OD16 I'm considering this thread is going to be one of the best resources I'll have!

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:55 am
by Larry B
Garnett wrote:Just read this thread, from start to finish. Well done Larry! What a fantastic boat.

Reading the thread has been incredibly motivational. If I go ahead with the OD16 I'm considering this thread is going to be one of the best resources I'll have!
Wow, thanks for the compliment, I debated weather to build the OD16 or OD18??? Learning from the others here who have built the OD's I put on a big splash rail and this boat is a dry ride :D One other thing is I came in WAY HEAVY, it still rides nice and is fast enough for me, but she's heavy and stout :wink: Be glad to help in anyway I can, I learned everything I know from others here.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:18 am
by Garnett
I'm quite keen to keep the weigh down if I go ahead, as I won't be able to afford as nice an engine as yours, Larry. Also, I've always "overengineered" stuff, and have learnt the hard way that, the way I do it, the thing I'm building would have been stronger without my "improvements"!

Two questions I had going through your thread were:-

Did you add extra ply to raise the bow end of the sheer line and prevent "droopy bows"? I see Lon and CL recommended pulling the sheets closer here, and then your proposed solution here. The result looks as good as the solution you were proposing but I can't see extra ply there.

I love the splash rails. What's your easier method for adding them?

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:30 am
by Larry B
Garnett, I intended to raise the bow when I cut my panels but forgot and cut them to plan. So then I had to cut pieces to fit and taped them on top to get my raised bow. Turned out pretty good.

On the spray rail, it was time consuming. Probably a better way to do it, but I cut the pieces to the aprox shape and kerfed them and glued them on. Then continued to shape them to the finished shape. Others here might have a better idea, but this worked for me.
Hope this helps.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:10 pm
by Garnett
Thanks Larry - I agree: the bow (and everything else) looks great - that's why I wanted to know what you'd done.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:18 pm
by Cracker Larry
I didn't add any additional wood to my sheer line and my bow doesn't droop. It is cut exactly to plan. Just keep it supported throughout the build so it can't droop. There are a lot of ODs with droopy bows, and a lot of people like that look. I like mine to stand proud :D Is green better than blue :lol:

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Sure wished I'd built a spray rail like Larry B. did :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:48 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote: I like mine to stand proud :D Is green better than blue :lol:
No, but I'm pretty sure YELLOW is :wink: :lol:
Sure wished I'd built a spray rail like Larry B. did
Only reason I have one, is because of you and Craig. And I sure do like it. I'm not kidding I can't make water come in the boat. But then again, that could be that big Ol' E-TEC on the back that makes it so dry :roll: :wink: 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:08 pm
by Cracker Larry
But then again, that could be that big Ol' E-TEC on the back that makes it so dry :roll: :wink: 8)
Then again, it could be that you ain't been out of that little lake yet :lol: Take her 75 miles offshore and run her through a few rough inlets, then give us another report on that. It's got to be drier than mine is, in any case :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:21 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote: Then again, it could be that you ain't been out of that little lake yet :lol: Take her 75 miles offshore and run her through a few rough inlets, then give us another report on that. It's got to be drier than mine is, in any case :lol:
Larry, I don't have the skills you have to be taking her out 75 miles, I might one day take her to Catalina Island in Calif. on a good day though. It's about 50 miles over to it. Sometimes some good fishing on the way. Thought about taking her to Mexico too. :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:15 am
by Uncle D
Larry B wrote: Thought about taking her to Mexico too.
Don't know if the Mexican areas around Arizona are better than Texas but I won't go to Falcon reservoir here if it was a free trip. Too crazy, but of course I'm not in that part of the state. The one's that do live there might have a different view.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:39 pm
by Larry B
Here are some pictures of my OD18 after fishing where I do. When fishing for bait I need to be close to shore and seems always seem to catch a rock or two. These are not rounded rocks they are razor sharp rocks. Also when I beach her there are nothing but rocks, so I will have to make some minor repairs after each season.

This is probably the worst of them and the picture makes it look worse than it is.
Most of the depth is fairing compound, then a little bit of glass. :help:
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This is the bottom at the bow, looks much worse in picture as it really is. most are just scrapes on the graphite where the graphite protected it. There are two that went through the graphite and scraped the glass. I've got probably 4 to 6 layers of glass in that area though.

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Now I'm open for any ideas on the repair???? I was thinking to use some wood flour mix to fill the depth, sand it smooth and put on a couple coats of graphite epoxy??

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:11 pm
by Cracker Larry
Most of the depth is fairing compound, then a little bit of glass.
That's the problem, it's the 10 gallons of fairing compound you put on there :P That stuff is brittle! Wood flour would be fine to repair it with, as long as it's not through the glass.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:18 pm
by danieloldhouse
Larry I would do that repair with an additive that here in Italy is called mineral microfibre, it's a very fine filament like crushed glass, you have to mix it to the epoxy to reach the consistence of an icecream and you'll get a resistance higher then the wood itself, then you can overfinish it as you want. Of course even the wood flour is ok, but that additive is the must. Hope to be helpful, regards.
Daniele

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:54 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
Most of the depth is fairing compound, then a little bit of glass.
That's the problem, it's the 10 gallons of fairing compound you put on there :P That stuff is brittle! Wood flour would be fine to repair it with, as long as it's not through the glass.
Not 10 gallons, maybe 9 :roll: And it's the micro balloons blended filler. Just went out and took a very close look with magnifying glass and thats exactly what it did in every spot. Went through the Graphite, and fairing compound, when it got to the glass it stopped. So I would say everything is working as it should. These are some very tough boats that Jacques designs.
I'm just going to wait till winter and do my repairs.
Hey Cracker here is something that will make you happy :lol: I was out on the lake the other day trolling with my E-tec and all of a sudden it just stops :doh: Restart and it stops, do that a couple times and she runs fine except low idle trolling :doh: My first thought was of you CL :wink: and I thought oh heck now I have to eat crow. Well I think I figured out what it was, (but still just a guess) it was 110 that day on the lake and trolling there would be no air circulation under the cowl. It was a dead calm day. I'm thinking the vapor/fuel separator got too hot and the fuel in the bulb and line out in the direct sun was just too hot. On the way back to the dock I even got dizzy and dam near passed out from the heat, had to stop and drench myself with water. When I got to the no wake zone, it idled fine to the dock. By that time I'm seeing stars and have no strenght to hike up the ramp to my truck. It's probably 100 yds or so to my truck and I had to take 4 breaks, usually dam near run up to my truck. Sat in my truck for about 20 minutes with air on trying to cool down. Couldn't see anything but stars and I was a bit concerned but then slowly I got back to close to normal and was able to go get my boat. So, anyway I believe it was the heat as it's running fine now. Just an exceptionally HOT day.
Other than that I've got about 80 worry free hours on her.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:05 pm
by Cracker Larry
Hey Cracker here is something that will make you happy
That wouldn't make me happy at all, and it would certainly earn me the wrath of Mrs. Cracker :help: I can just hear me giving her that lame excuse for why the engine won't run 8O Sorry honey, too hot, have to wait for evening for the engine to crank :doh: Not. I ain't going there! When she says crank her up and make me a breeze, that engine better run. We've had 60 days this summer of temps over 100, and the engine never cares. It's normal operating temperature is about 140-180 anyway, and it is relying on water for cooling, not air flow. It's normal body temp is a lot higher than yours or mine :lol:

Seriously, the engine should not do that just because it's a hot day, they run all over the world in a lot of hot places. Something is wrong, somewhere.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:21 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:
Seriously, the engine should not do that just because it's a hot day, they run all over the world in a lot of hot places. Something is wrong, somewhere.
Yep, probably but right now it's running great. I'll just have to see if it does it again and if so check into it more. If it doesn't do it again, it's hard to fix what you can't find. Next time out I'll troll for a long time and see how she does??? I didn't mean you would like it to happen to you, I meant you would like it because it happened to my Etec :lol: But just kidding as I know your not that kind of person to wish bad things on others :wink:
But just like the boat it's a thing and it can be fixed or replaced, unlike my old body when I get heat exhaustion. Second time since living in the desert with the tortoise and snakes and lizards and scorpions. :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:24 pm
by Cracker Larry
I don't wish nothing bad for your Etec :help: I don't wish nothing bad for anybody. How much maintenance have you done in your 80 hours?
Next time out I'll troll for a long time and see how she does???
Would you troll her across to the Bahamas and take your wife? It's hot down there too.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:35 pm
by steve292
Larry,
This is possibly nothing to do with the heat, take a look at this-
http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/etec-90-pr ... 43808.html

It sounds like the same thing that happened to you here.
Steve

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:33 pm
by Larry B
steve, no that seems to be a different problem. Mine run fine at anything higher than idle, It runs great at higher rpms, it was at idle that it stopped. Actually the more I think about it, it could be the lift pump. At idle maybe just couldn't lift the fuel and at higher rpm it pumped fine. I'm just guessing here but if it happens again that is where I'm going to look.
Thanks for posting the link though.
Larry B

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:28 pm
by Larry B
OK, I think I now know what the problem was. Had nothing to do with the E-tec, but a lot to do with the boat builder :help: I haven't run it yet but I do believe I've found the problem. When I put my fuel bulb in for some reason I just never thought it was working right??? Sometimes I could get a firm bulb but usually not, but the motor still ran fine. Well I decided just for the heck of it, I replaced my fuel line from the racor filter/water separator to the motor. Now the bulb will suck fuel like a champ and it will stay hard, where before it would bleed down. So I figure I had a air leak someplace. I'll post back when I run it, (probably tomorrow) :D Just want to be sure to place blame where it is due. I believe the motor is FANTASTIC but I'll report back.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:51 pm
by Cracker Larry
I knew something was wrong besides the heat :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:35 pm
by Larry B
Update, took it out for a test run today, and it turns out it wasn't me afterall :wink: I hooked it up to the computer and it shows a #2 ignition coil short. Runs great at high rpms but starts missing when rpms are lowered. So I'll get a new coil under warrenty and should be good to go. Just one of those things that can happen. It's an electrical part. So anyway thats the deal at this point.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:24 am
by Cracker Larry
Yep, knew it had to be more wrong than just a hot day. Glad they found it 8)

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:46 am
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Yep, knew it had to be more wrong than just a hot day. Glad they found it 8)
I Found it, Not them. I do most all my own work. I hook it up to my computer and it tells me everything I need to know about the motor. Only reason it took so long is I didn't have the right cable and couldn't hook it up to my motor yet.
It tells you time the fault happened, RPM at the time, Temp at the time and so forth as you can see below. Even told me it was extra hot that day :D This just a sample of what it tells you. Got to look closer to see if it will make me coffee while on the lake?? :wink: Kidding aside, makes it very easy to see what your motor is doing and if everything is running OK.

26 12 33:08 65:19 -- Battery voltage below expected range / excessive battery load
RPM=563; TPS=0%; Baro=96Hg; Air=35°C; Port=48°C; Stbd=0°C; EMM=34°C; Exh=0kPa; WP=0psi; SV=29V; BV=10V


102 4 78:02 78:15 -- Cylinder #2 ignition coil short circuit detected
RPM=647; TPS=0%; Baro=96Hg; Air=60°C; Port=70°C; Stbd=0°C; EMM=41°C; Exh=0kPa; WP=0psi; SV=29V; BV=12V


49 1 78:33 78:33 -- Air temperature above expected range
RPM=0; TPS=0%; Baro=96Hg; Air=67°C; Port=65°C; Stbd=0°C; EMM=51°C; Exh=0kPa; WP=0psi; SV=12V; BV=3V

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:24 pm
by Mad Dog
Etec offers (for a price) a CD and cable to load on a computer and connect to the ECM. I figured it was for service techs only but I think I'll investigate further. I would really like to know what happened with the occassional stutter or stall out without having to drop it off with the dealer. Thanks for the insight.

MD :wink:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:41 pm
by Larry B
Mad Dog wrote:Etec offers (for a price) a CD and cable to load on a computer and connect to the ECM. I figured it was for service techs only but I think I'll investigate further. I would really like to know what happened with the occassional stutter or stall out without having to drop it off with the dealer. Thanks for the insight.

MD :wink:
Email sent

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:42 pm
by Cracker Larry
That's a very cool feature 8) I like that! The technology of my 2 stroke Yamaha is older than PCs I think :lol:

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:11 pm
by tobolamr
Yeah, but that older technology was researched to be pretty near bullet proof. :wink: Sometimes something gets so many bells, whistles and gadgets that it's no longer any good at doing what it was supposed to be.

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:23 pm
by Larry B
tobolamr wrote:Yeah, but that older technology was researched to be pretty near bullet proof. :wink: Sometimes something gets so many bells, whistles and gadgets that it's no longer any good at doing what it was supposed to be.
That true to a degree. I really didn't like it when automotive motors went to electronic and thought what a piece of crap. :doh: But now after driving a few cars and trucks with the computer electronics I'm convinced it's a better motor. True if it breaks down, your dead in the water so to speak, but knock on wood none of my computer controlled engines have let me down, unlike the mechanical engines I've had. Although I was always able to fix it on the side of the road and keep going. I'm talking 40's, 50's, 60's and 70 model engines. You would be lucky to get 100,000 miles on a motor where today, it's more like 200,000 and 300,000 and more. But I still like my motorcycle old school, and still love the older motors but dont' have any anymore :( I'm not as young as I once was, so plugging in a computer and have it tell me what to fix is nice to have. :D

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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:21 pm
by tobolamr
Agreed. I really hope the issue turns out to be very minor for you on the e-tec, too. Not just cuz I think they are a good motor (but I think there are a lot of good motors out there nowadays...) but because I just don't want to see anyone in a pinch with a problem. Please keep us posted!

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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:35 pm
by Larry B
Update on my Etec. Received the ignition coil last friday, got it installed but couldnt get to lake until today. So for about 3-4 hours straight I trolled and trolled and run WOT and trolled and run WOT and not even a hicup :D So hopefully all is well again. I've also finally got it proped good. I put on a 4 blade 13 pitch rogue prop and she gets up and out of the hole like a bat outta hell, lost some top end but she's still fast enough for me. Top speed right now is 26 mph gps, with the 15 pitch it was about 30 mph gps. but hole shot really sucked.

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:13 am
by Larry B
Thought I'd post up a video of my OD18 crusing across the lake. I was doing about 25 mph (gps) I plan to get some good side shots when I can figure out how to mount the camera on the side of the boat. I'm close to having that figured out :doh: This was taken with the GoPro camera with the head strap. First video so it's kinda boring but you can see how smooth the OD is. Hope ya like it??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FugcPmd8I8I

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:29 am
by gstanfield
I've said it before and I'll say it again, that sure is a pretty boat :D

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:22 pm
by Larry B
Here is a video of how my spray rail is working out. Had my camera Redneck rigged and didn't dare go too fast and have a wake take it off. Had some 50# mono tied to it, but got to thinking the prop might make short work of that idea :doh: But you can see how well it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRi4ZEaSnA

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:53 pm
by Cracker Larry
Oh yeah! That works sure nuff 8) I'm kicking myself in the butt for not putting one on mine. When the time ever comes that the outside needs repainting, No Excuse is going to get a spray rail :!:

Nice video example too, thanks 8)

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:57 pm
by gstanfield
Looks like they are doing their job 8)

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:10 pm
by Larry B
Cracker Larry wrote:Oh yeah! That works sure nuff 8) I'm kicking myself in the butt for not putting one on mine. When the time ever comes that the outside needs repainting, No Excuse is going to get a spray rail :!:

Nice video example too, thanks 8)
But I had your experience of a wet ride, otherwise I might not have one. See how much ya'll help others here on the forum :D I was able to get wet last week though. Wind was blowing about 25mph, probably about 2' waves and when the bow would hit the wave the wind would just blow in my face. But on normal light wind and whitecaps, I stay dry. :D

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:51 pm
by Cracker Larry
But I had your experience of a wet ride, otherwise I might not have one. See how much ya'll help others here on the forum
I should have told a fib and said it worked perfectly well without one. Then you would be as wet as me :lol:

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:13 am
by Prarie Dog
Wanted to let you guys know that SWMBO, T and I went by Larry B's house yesterday and met him. He's a heck of a guy that has built a real nice boat. My frame of reference regarding quality is what was at the Texas Meet, Larry's build is fully the equal of the nicest boats that were there. The finish work is first class! L told me he has over 140 hrs on this boat since he finished it. Larry thanks for having us out! :D

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:36 am
by Larry B
Prarie Dog wrote:Wanted to let you guys know that SWMBO, T and I went by Larry B's house yesterday and met him. He's a heck of a guy that has built a real nice boat. My frame of reference regarding quality is what was at the Texas Meet, Larry's build is fully the equal of the nicest boats that were there. The finish work is first class! L told me he has over 140 hrs on this boat since he finished it. Larry thanks for having us out! :D
PD, it was my pleasure meeting you, your wife and T. Really enjoyed the visit. Thanks for the compliments on my boat. Look forward to meeting ya'll at a meet sometime. :D Wish we would of had more time and the the Wind wasn't blowing, we could have went for a ride and maybe did some fishing. Always next time, you and your family are always welcome.

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:18 pm
by Cracker Larry
8) I like meeting boat builders :D

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:39 pm
by Larry B
Well thought I'd put this in my thread.
I'm getting close to wrapping my first Rod :D Never did this before but I need new Cat Rods and wanted to build my own. This is my Rod Wrapper I built. It still needs some tweaks done to it, but overall it's operational :D It is 8' long and fully adjustable.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:48 pm
by Cracker Larry
Excellent 8) Some of those parts look familiar, but you've made all the right changes :D

It's about time for me to start working on a winter rod myself.

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:27 pm
by Larry B
Getting closer, got my light installed today. Have most of what I need, just waitting on another shippment and it'll be wrapping time. :D

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:02 pm
by timmydafool
So where did you get your design from? what kinda drying motor and chuck did you go with?

it looks awesome I've been wanting to do this for some time now.

-tim

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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:47 pm
by Larry B
OK, Not perfect and I'll probably redo it as I move up the rod and get better (Hopefully :help: )
But thought I'd post a picture to show off my first wrap :D

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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:36 pm
by gstanfield
I like it :D

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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:51 pm
by Larry B
gstanfield wrote:I like it :D
Thanks George, I do believe the hardest part is this first learning curve, it's a real bitch and with my aging eye's it's even harder. :wink:

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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:29 pm
by a_Adel
Building my own rods is a hobby i never had the time to commit to it as much as I would want to, read alot about it, just wish if i could practice it enough.
really like your wrap, and your wrapper :), does it have various speeds?

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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:53 pm
by Cracker Larry
That ain't a bad first wrap, it takes some practice and developing a feel for it. You'll probably want to strip it and do it again before you are finished. My problem is only building 1 or 2 rods a year, I forget what I learned last time and have to learn it again :doh:

Larry, are you power wrapping, or spinning the rod by hand? I usually just hand spin it for the wraps, the motor makes me screw up even faster :lol: I just use the motor for drying.

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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:33 pm
by Larry B
really like your wrap, and your wrapper , does it have various speeds?
Thanks, and not various speeds, only one speed, slow for drying.
Larry, are you power wrapping, or spinning the rod by hand? I usually just hand spin it for the wraps, the motor makes me screw up even faster I just use the motor for drying.
Larry, I'm spinning the rod by hand, time consuming and tiring but I'd really screw it up with a power wrapper. I'm not in a hurry anyway so it don't matter much. Just use the motor for drying.
I took the guide off and finished doing the under wraps and put a coat of epoxy on that, tomorrow I'll start wrapping the guides again with Black Thread size D

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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:17 pm
by Cracker Larry
Those are looking good. You might want to use a color preservative on the threads before you epoxy them, to keep the colors from bleeding through or fading, although on the last rod I built I used several coats of color preservative and it's already fading. Doesn't matter much I reckon. Metallic colors seem to go the fastest in the sun.
tomorrow I'll start wrapping the guides again with Black Thread size D
Are you sure? Those under wraps look like size A? Size D might look like rope on top of them. If you ain't in no hurry, it would look better wrapped in size A :wink: Just saying... :D

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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:54 am
by Larry B
Well it ain't perfect, but it's a great rod. Don't plan on selling them, so I only have to make myself happy. I used the Eva Foam Grips because they are tough.
Anyway here are some pictures:

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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:01 am
by gstanfield
Looks like a winner to me, now to see if it works :wink:

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:56 pm
by Larry B
Thought I'd share some pictures of Arizona Sunset in a Arizona Sunrise :D

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:37 am
by Cracker Larry
Wow 8) Beautiful. The boat really compliments the scenery.

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:42 am
by stickystuff
Man, What a purty sky. We get those here but are usually full of thunder storms. Awsome job on the boat. You will love it. :D

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:45 am
by cottontop
That is one really nice looking rod. You will get better each time you do it. I love your boat and the sunset pictures. it jus doesn't get any better than that. :D

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:14 am
by peter-curacao
Beautiful pics, that first one is like a postcard pic 8)

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:10 am
by gstanfield
Very nice Larry! :D

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:53 pm
by Larry B
George and Others, this is my setup for sleeping on the boat all night while fishing for Flatheads.

This is where I store the bed planks while not needed:
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Here are the planks raised and in position for sleeping:
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Here is a small bedroll I use to protect the air mattress:
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This is my air mattress in it's case, the case also doubles for the pump:
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Getting ready to pump it up:
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pumped up:
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Blanket or Sleeping bag and you are ready for bed :D
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:10 pm
by gstanfield
Nice :!:

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:17 pm
by Joe H
Pefect Larry.

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:21 pm
by Fuzz
Larry,
Every time I see pictures of your boat I think to myself "That is not a boat, it is a work of art" You sure have every reason in the world to be proud of your boat!
Fuzz

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:05 pm
by hockey52
We sure liked it when we visited him at Thanksgiving. 8)

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:50 am
by stickystuff
If you did't already know, before you start the wrap on the guides take them and file the starting edges down to a sharp taper. This lets you wind the thread smoothly up the foot of the guide and not have to go over a hump.makes a very smooth transition. I like your color match. :D :D

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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:04 pm
by Larry B
Well trying to do a nicer job on my rods, here is a first time olive branch, lots of work but worth it:

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:15 pm
by Larry B
Ok, my first try at carbon fiber grip, not bad but will be better in the future.

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:58 pm
by Cracker Larry
Your olive branch image didn't come through but I found it. That's very cool 8)

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:06 pm
by Larry B
Well after having people who don't know how to drive at the boat ramp parking lot, who seem to like to hit my trailer lights I thought I'd give this a try. A lot cheaper than replacing lights each time. Had I thought when I built the trailer I'd have done something different so they couldn't hit them, but my hind sight is pretty darn good so this is how I fix it. :D

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:17 pm
by Eric1
Well Done Larry! 8)

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:21 pm
by Aripeka Angler
Larry B wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:06 pm Well after having people who don't know how to drive at the boat ramp parking lot, who seem to like to hit my trailer lights I thought I'd give this a try. A lot cheaper than replacing lights each time. Had I thought when I built the trailer I'd have done something different so they couldn't hit them, but my hind sight is pretty darn good so this is how I fix it. :D

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Love it Larry. :D

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:11 am
by glossieblack
I just became acquainted with this build, as it was done and dusted before I jointed the forum.

Nice job, nice OD18!

And it contains the best demonstration of the worth of spray rails I've seen on the forum.

Thanks!

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:26 am
by Larry B
Thanks,
Eric, AA and Glossyblack

Glossy, yes awhile back everyone was discussing spray rails so I thought I'd get a video of it. Glad you liked it :D

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:18 pm
by Larry B
Been cleaning her up and wanted to show a picture of her after 8 years of boating.

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:48 pm
by Jeff
Larry B, would you send me a few more photos of your OD18? I would like to use her on our main website for a couple of weeks!! Thank you in advance, Jeff (jeff@e-boat.net)

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:42 pm
by Larry B
Jeff wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:48 pm Larry B, would you send me a few more photos of your OD18? I would like to use her on our main website for a couple of weeks!! Thank you in advance, Jeff (jeff@e-boat.net)
Jeff, I emailed you some pictures, thanks for showing off my boat :D

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:26 pm
by Bogieman
That's a great looking boat! Nice pics too.

Bogie

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:17 pm
by Fair WX Pilot
Hi Larry, the boat still looks great even after eight years on the water. It was yours and Capemans build log along with Cracker Larry's advice that inspired me to start building my dory. So, a quick question. After eight years of service and sailing her, is there anything you would have done differently or is she perfect as she is?

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:33 pm
by Larry B
Fair WX Pilot wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:17 pm Hi Larry, the boat still looks great even after eight years on the water. It was yours and Capemans build log along with Cracker Larry's advice that inspired me to start building my dory. So, a quick question. After eight years of service and sailing her, is there anything you would have done differently or is she perfect as she is?
First thanks for the compliment :D

Yes, a couple of minor things, the 60HP works good but I would go with more HP
I would have made my rub rails narrower, I always think bigger is better, in this case not so much, my rubber rub rails didn't reach to the top of the gunwales and it keeps getting dinged right there.

Other than that she is everything I wanted.

By the way, it was Cracker Larry's and Capemans that I copied from and then just put some minor details that fit my needs.

Larry B

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:45 am
by cape man
She's looking good with the age.
I am hoping to repower mine this year with a 70 Yamaha. The 40 does fine with two people and some gear, but she bogs down with three or more.
I also would raise the sole an inch, if building decks console, etc. With just me in, the water comes in the scuppers . Easy to drain on plane, but another inch would solve it.

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:24 am
by fallguy1000
Personally, I would think you would be a fool to sell that boat for 12k.

Just compare it to a Whaler Montauk cc in good condition. Those are all around 15-20k and some cosmetics even at that. I realize the cult following, but the boat you built is pretty sharp looking.

Value proposition.

Unless it just ain't there. Sure looked good to me.

Re: OD18 in Arizona..SPLASHED..

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:07 am
by Larry B
fallguy1000 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 12:24 am Personally, I would think you would be a fool to sell that boat for 12k.

Just compare it to a Whaler Montauk cc in good condition. Those are all around 15-20k and some cosmetics even at that. I realize the cult following, but the boat you built is pretty sharp looking.

Value proposition.

Unless it just ain't there. Sure looked good to me.
Thanks for the input fallguy,
seems as I don't "HAVE" to sell it, I'm gonna hang on to it for awhile. My wife doesn't even want me to sell it as she watched and helped me build her.
I'll just use it when I can.
Maybe the grandkids will end up with it afterall :D
Larry B

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:34 am
by cape man
Maybe the grandkids will end up with it afterall :D
8) 8) 8)